Peculiar event for the Knights

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Vanilla 1.08, Grand Campaign: Playing as the Knights, I got the event "Jean Parisot de la Vallette". The text went on about the heroic defense of Malta against the Turk and how the Knights made the island into a fortress. And then I got an enlarged fortress - in Crete! A bug?

 

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Vanilla 1.08, Grand Campaign: Playing as the Knights, I got the event "Jean Parisot de la Vallette". The text went on about the heroic defense of Malta against the Turk and how the Knights made the island into a fortress. And then I got an enlarged fortress - in Crete! A bug?

it probably has command -1 for the fort instead of the Malta province.

edit: Malta of course

 

[AndrewT]

Corrected, thanks.

 

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Corrected, thanks.

Thank you!

By the time this event fires, the Knights may not own Rhodos anymore - if their capital moved to Malta. I think owning (and possibly controlling) Rhodos should be added to the triggers (or possibly some other event should be be made for the situation when the Knights lost Rhodos).

Well, yes, but the event concerns Malta, not Rhodes...

 

[DPS]

It seems to me that this event attempts to show how de la Vallette's leadership lead to the Knights excellent defense of their fortress during this campaign. Since at this point in the game, if the Knights still exist, they may own Malta but not Rhodes, Rhodes but not Malta, or both of them (alone or in combination with other provinces) I don't think the event should check for province ownership. I also think the intent is that the improved fortress should be gained in a random province--if the Knights had happened to own Malta and Crete as in the original post, Crete might have been the focus of the campaign instead of Malta itself, so the -1 for the province should be put back. That will also help if the Knights still own Rhodes but not Malta--if the event specifies Malta, it's useless in such a case.

 

[AndrewT]

Fair points all. Perhaps it should give a fortress boost in both Malta and Rhodes, one of those should be their capital in 99% of games.

 

[Owen]

Fair points all. Perhaps it should give a fortress boost in both Malta and Rhodes, one of those should be their capital in 99% of games.

Wouldn't it make most sense to use "=-2" here, i.e. increase the size of the fort in the capital only? I think -2 means capital, I'm not absolutely sure, but I'm sure you know what I mean Andrew.

 

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I was going to suggest the exact same thing

 

[AndrewT]

I'd quite forgotten that option. OK, that's in now, thanks.

 

[Hive]

Speaking of The Knights, perhaps it was about time to fix the event in which they get Malta? They shouldn't really get it unless they don't exist, as Spain only gave it to them because they had lost Rhodes...

And it's easy enough to fix, behold:

#The Knights of St:John of Jerusalem#
event = {

id = 3156
trigger = {
owned = {
province = 819
data = -1
}
NOT = {
exists = KNI
}
}
random = no
country = SPA
name = "EVENTNAME3156"
desc = "EVENTHIST3156"
style = 2

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1528 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1533 }

action_a ={ #Give Malta to the Knights of St:John#
name = "ACTIONNAME3156A"
command = { type = independence which = KNI }
command = { type = stability value = 2 }
command = { type = trigger which = 3540 }
}

action_b ={ #Don't give them anything#
name = "ACTIONNAME3156B"
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -150 }
command = { type = warships which = -1 value = 5 }
command = { type = warships which = -1 value = 4 }
command = { type = warships which = -1 value = 3 }
}
}

 

[Owen]

No Hive.

By all means create an event that fires if the OE controls Rhodes, but this is messy, and would create the new Knights in the image of Spain.

 

[Hive]

No Hive.

By all means create an event that fires if the OE controls Rhodes, but this is messy, and would create the new Knights in the image of Spain.

Que?

 

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Que?

I think he means it would create the knights with the techs and, more importantly, the maps of Spain. An easy target for anyone who wants them.

 

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But the solution is to trigger on CONTROL of Rhodes. If the Knights do not Control Rhodes (and rebels don't control Rhodes?) then Spain 'secedes' Malta to them and they move their capital there. No tech, no maps.

Alternately if the Ottomans control Rhodes and the knights own it SPA secedes Malta to KNI, KNI moves capital to Malta and secedes Rhodes to OE.

Should work.

 

[Owen]

But the solution is to trigger on CONTROL of Rhodes. If the Knights do not Control Rhodes (and rebels don't control Rhodes?) then Spain 'secedes' Malta to them and they move their capital there. No tech, no maps.

Alternately if the Ottomans control Rhodes and the knights own it SPA secedes Malta to KNI, KNI moves capital to Malta and secedes Rhodes to OE.

Should work.

Indeed, that's exactly what I meant. It would require two events, or three if one is needed for the OE.

I imagine the KNI event would also lose Greek culture and maybe add Maltese, then make them more naval-oriented as well.

 

[Hive]

Oh right, didn't think about the maps... well it's still feasible to fix, will only require a total of 4 events - and they can all use the same, old event text.