Peasant Rebel controlled provinces 'defecting' back to owner

[joshau-k]

I got back home and started trying to herd them. I felt I could do it two ways:

• Surround the peasant-sieging province with regiments except for the province I want them to go to, and then send a 'equivalent' army in to win the battle and make them retreat to the desired province.
• Similarly to the first, surround the peasant-sieging province with regiments except the desired province I want them to go to, then let them finish the siege and hope that they go to the only undefended adjacent province.

So here is my progress so far of trying to 'herd'

• Surround the peasant-sieging province with regiments except for the province I want them to go to, and then send a 'equivalent' army in to win the battle and make them retreat to the desired province.

Attempt 1 - It was a failure as I accidentally killed the stack(I thought I had too many). Before + After (They got completely wiped even though I didn't kill all of them, so I don't know where they went)

Attempt 2 - I used lower maintenance but I actually lost the battle, so I sent another stack in with very low morale maintenance. Screenshot. But in the end they got wiped even though I didn't 'kill them' (disappeared just like before). It failed just like before but it was even worse because it was next to my capital and I had such high hopes.

Attempt 3 - I tried to send in a lower amount of regiments and then reinforce with a couple more so they wouldn't die and I only barely won the fight. But after losing the battle the all the peasants decided to turn into ghosts.

• Similarly to the first, surround the peasant-sieging province with regiments except the desired province I want them to go to, then let them finish the siege and hope that they go to the only undefended adjacent province.

Attempt 1 - Had it surrounded but it didn't care and went straight for one of my armies and killed itself. Screenshot.


Unfortunately herding peasants to my capital doesn't seem to be viable, I'll have to hope that peasants spawn near my capital, occupy my capital and hope that they enforce their demands before my capital defects back to me. I'll also look into trying to get a civil war to start. However, if I'm doing the 'herding' thing wrong then I'll gladly accept some tips.

Some rebel types, including peasants, don't flee when defeated, they just disband.

 

[aitaituo]

Peasants only have a 50% chance of forcing you into a noble republic, right?

I can see where this is going.

 

[Meneth]

The wiki doesn't have much about the different types, unfortunately, but does have those images. I don't think you can "pick" to have one type of rebels or other, or at least I don't know how to influence their type. I had some American colonies that wanted to change my government...

The wiki now has a ton of info on what the different rebel types do.

 

[rekindledflame]

Possibly move your capital to the province with the highest RR and hope to get lucky? I'm not even sure if that would actually work, but it's the only thought that came to mind, even though it would still be luck based.

 

[The-King]

Possibly move your capital to the province with the highest RR and hope to get lucky? I'm not even sure if that would actually work, but it's the only thought that came to mind, even though it would still be luck based.

Most of my high revolt risk provinces are in lithuania. I can't move my capital there because I'm a member of the HRE and the Emperor(Bohemia) hates me so much that he won't let me add more provinces to the HRE and leaving the HRE is not an option.

 

[ahuitzotl]

Nice try The-King!

Out of your two methods, both good ideas, I think #1 (attacking them) was doomed from the outset because the rebels are so fragile, either peasants or a tiny revolutionary band. (in MP also you can get your friend or pay someone to fund Revolutionary Rebels if you have them)

Method #2 is what I was using, you have to let the herd graze before they move on to new pastures. I had the same failure mode as you on my first try, and it was with actual Revolutionaries too. They must have been Anarchists since they preferred martyrdom to becoming the new leaders, which they know will just replicate the old systems of oppression, yada yada.

On my second attempt for your second method though, I successfully herded the rebels through 2 provinces to my capital, letting them graze and conquer along the way. It was easy for me because it was along the Persian Gulf and I could use that sea barrier to herd them along with fewer doomstacks.

I suggest you give the second method a few more tries, but this time surround the rebels with more overwhelming force to discourage a kamikaze attack. It must be hard since Commonwealth is such a giant landmass. If you lack the forces/manpower for an overwhelming encirclement, maybe just two huge armies on either side that can move to block when and where they start moving to scare them into going a certain way? Haven't tried that but it could work. Also don't try to recapture the province they took once they move on, not that you were doing that, but I did it once and they came back to protect it.

 

[The-King]

It took me 53 years but I did iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!!

What I did:
I did what Saintrl suggested by getting my war exhaustion to super high levels and letting peasants take over the place.

Eventually peasants spawned near my capital and went to occupy it and then I just waited for the countdown.