Peaceful Annexation

[Satcho]

I just looked through the screenshots and saw the country of Texas. I hadn't thought of this before, but is peaceful annexation going to be possible? A few American States started as seperate sovereign nations (Texas, for example) and then later joined the union voluntarily. Is there going to be an option for this or will it be event driven? Or neither?

The US also bought a lot of its land from other countries. Apply above question to this point as well.

 

[unmerged(10802)]

Event driven I'd say as the potential for exploitation of land selling is huge. There was a thread about this some time back.

 

[Satcho]

Originally posted by Josquius
Event driven I'd say as the potential for exploitation of land selling is huge. There was a thread about this some time back.

Oops, I'm sorry. I just kinda wandered in, looked at the screenshots and the question came to mind. Browsed the faq, didn't see the answer and posted. I guess I'll look harder if I ever wander back again. Thanks.

 

[Morpheus506]

I hope they will allow diploannexation. That's one of the things I dont' like about HoI, the inability to peacefully absorb your allies.

 

[unmerged(10945)]

Originally posted by Josquius
Event driven I'd say as the potential for exploitation of land selling is huge. There was a thread about this some time back.

Meh, I still hope they at least seriously attempt putting land sales into the game. The AI should be vastly improved over EU2 or HOI, why shouldn't we expect it to be open to more options as they present themselves?

 

[Zagys]

Originally posted by Morpheus506
I hope they will allow diploannexation. That's one of the things I dont' like about HoI, the inability to peacefully absorb your allies.

But it's not realistic.

 

[Zagys]

Originally posted by PriestOfDiscord
The AI should be vastly improved over EU2 or HOI

It should be but it won't.

 

[unmerged(8913)]

Originally posted by Zagys
But it's not realistic.

What about the Republic of Texas? They were basically diplo-annexed by the US....

 

[unmerged(10945)]

Originally posted by Zagys
It should be but it won't.

I'm willing to be the glass-is-half-full kind of guy here because after a few patches for any Paradox product the AI, while far from perfect, is pretty proficent where it needs to be. You are right though, I might be overly optimistic. I hope you're wrong though.

 

[Morpheus506]

Originally posted by Zagys
But it's not realistic.

Uh.... uh...... uh..... so?

 

[Moltke]

Instead of saying bluntly, "it's not realistic" why don't you elaborate?

I can think of a few peaceful annexations... seems my history books were unrealistic?

 

[Duuk]

Peaceful Annexations:

Germany, Italy, Texas, California

Land Purchases:

Gadsen Purchase (North Mexico to US)

Seward's Folly (Alaska to US)

Panama Canal (Panama to US)

There also needs to be an option to incite and support a revolt in a foreign nation to install a friendly government:

Hawaii, Panama ("revolted" from Nicaragua in JUST enough time to sell the Canal zone to Theodore Roosevelt. Convienent, that.)

 

[Dark Knight]

I would hope that posters in this thread are capable of delivering more than four- or six-word responses in future posts.

 

[unmerged(8913)]

Originally posted by Duuk
....Hawaii, Panama ("revolted" from Nicaragua in JUST enough time to sell the Canal zone to Theodore Roosevelt. Convienent, that.)

Nitpick: Panama revolted from Columbia, not Nicaragua....

 

[unmerged(870)]

Originally posted by Duuk
Panama ("revolted" from Nicaragua in JUST enough time to sell the Canal zone to Theodore Roosevelt. Convienent, that.)

Didn't Panama "revolt" against Columbia?

Americans came in with their big white ships, asked to buy Panama Columbians said "no" and then we "liberated" Panama.

I could be wrong.

 

[unmerged(870)]

Originally posted by Marcus Valerius
Nitpick: Panama revolted from Columbia, not Nicaragua....

Heh, didn't see that post. My bad.

 

[Zagys]

It's not so much that I'm against the very concept of peaceful annexation, I just don't want it to dominate the game to the extent it does in EU 2. The examples from this time period happened due to unique circumstances, the game should reflect that.

 

[unmerged(8913)]

Originally posted by Zagys
....The examples from this time period happened due to unique circumstances, the game should reflect that.

But does that mean that all annexations are classified as such:

Originally posted by Zagys
But it's not realistic.

 

[Zagys]

Originally posted by Marcus Valerius
But does that mean that all annexations are classified as such:

No, but I thought people were advocating a EU 2 style system.

 

[unmerged(8913)]

Originally posted by Zagys
No, but I thought people were advocating a EU 2 style system.

Ah, I agree, that would be bad. What Victoria needs is not only a system of diploannexation, but a different one from EU2....