Peace

[rommel_sniper]

Neither in HOI1 nor HOI2 countries that there are inside an "important" alliance (Allies, Axis, Comintern) never accept peace, don't matter if it is good for them or not.

This is not historical (If UK would lost all the isles and India, sure they will give up) and it is agobiant

It is going to change in HOI3?

 

[unmerged(105989)]

England will sometimes offer peace. I had conquered the isles, the middle east, North Africa, and was well through India into Burma, when the Brits offered peace. They wanted me to give up my puppet of Scotland. I wasn't about to do that, so I will hunt the Brits to ends of their small puny islands.

That said, the UK and SU peace events are completely scripted. I agree with you that lesser nations should have the opportunity of dropping out of their alliance, making peace, perhaps even having a coup and switching sides if enough of their country was conquered, or a significant percentage of their army had been destroyed.

 

[rommel_sniper]

England will sometimes offer peace. I had conquered the isles, the middle east, North Africa, and was well through India into Burma, when the Brits offered peace. They wanted me to give up my puppet of Scotland. I wasn't about to do that, so I will hunt the Brits to ends of their small puny islands.

That said, the UK and SU peace events are completely scripted. I agree with you that lesser nations should have the opportunity of dropping out of their alliance, making peace, perhaps even having a coup and switching sides if enough of their country was conquered, or a significant percentage of their army had been destroyed.

They exist with events, but I am speaking a peace with "diplomacy" "peace" that never accept if they are in a powerfull alliance and you too

 

[unmerged(56754)]

England will sometimes offer peace.

Hmmm? If the UK is still in the allies they will neither offer peace or accept any peace, no matter how generous you are. Its hardcoded.

 

[unmerged(101687)]

I agree, I played a game as Yugoslavia and got DOW'd by the Soviets in 1937 and I was still at war when the game ended without any combat

 

[unmerged(105989)]

Guys, read my second paragraph please It says that the UK and SU peace offers are scripted. It also mentions that I agree, individual nations that are part of alliances should have the ability to make a separate peace if they have been defeated.

 

[Deus Eversor]

we do not want some easy scribe by scribe events!
we want NEGOTIANTIONS!
or we will protest and strike! :roll:

of course you could just say we can freely use tha acceptall cheat oh wait... maybe it was just for that

 

[rommel_sniper]

we do not want some easy scribe by scribe events!
we want NEGOTIANTIONS!
or we will protest and strike! :roll:

of course you could just say we can freely use tha acceptall cheat oh wait... maybe it was just for that

Yes but I don0t want cheats, i want really things!

For example, if Germany in 1939 had sent to UK a peace offer in which german gives UK all east Germay, the allies would have accepted!


That I want, really things

 

[Lazy_Boy]

Yeah there needs to be a real negotiating system. If Germany won the Battle of Britain and didn't invade Russia the Brits would've certainly negotiated peace quickly without even a landing on England. All alone with constant bombing would just beat them into submission.

Imo there need to be all kinds of national factors like morale (which could affect troops too). Policy and actual events could drastically affect that. Free Press vs State Press slider would be a start. Fascist nation loses 500k men in a battle, very little drop. Democracy does, massive morale loss.

I don't believe for a second that democracies would keep fighting a foreign war if they suffered even close to the eastern front loses. Imagine 1.5 million Americans surrounded and killed landing in France.... might that change opinion on continuing the war?

 

[rommel_sniper]

Totally agree

 

[Deus Eversor]

indeed there should be something like national morale as a independent yet supporting in dissent

you do not have to rebel to feel weak and want peace
besides if a nation wants peace then why it should suddenly start rebelling?