Now I know that a lot of wikipedia historians will bash me for being so general but here is my statement :
Peace treaties, even when a nation had completely played the other out of competition, were rarely if not never, ONE SIDED.
I want my peace treaties to allow mutual concessions. Certainly not in terms of land but in all other terms.
EX: I will release such vassal if you renounce your claims on this and this land. or I will compensate your damage of war by paying 150 ducats but you have to release this personal union fellow of yours.
What happened to exchange of good will between huge powers that can't really defeat each other ?
Who has ever heard of "White peace" during the middle ages ? The first example of european white peace was after Napoleon was defeated in 1814 and Europe was brought back to its ancient limits.
I am annoyed by that. Often, wars don't aim at conquest, but simply at political objectives. As such, you don't need to go "all-out" to obtain what you want.
If you look at wars between France and England, HRE and Spain, or even Venice and Austria, it was NEVER a one sided treaty, Even when the warscore was at 100.
Wouldn't there be a way to trade those favours using the warscore ? Your concessions adding to it while your demands decrease it, and make the AI accept when it is close to 0 on the negociation pannel ?
EX : You have 35 of Warscore. You negotiate to renounce claims on 2 provinces, giving you a warscore of 50. With those 50 you can ask for 3 provinces, bringing the warscore between 0-5. If you demand too much, the warscore goes negative and your proposal goes rejected.
Making the treaty still advantageous for you but a lot more realistic.
Thank you for your attention
Peace treaties, even when a nation had completely played the other out of competition, were rarely if not never, ONE SIDED.
I want my peace treaties to allow mutual concessions. Certainly not in terms of land but in all other terms.
EX: I will release such vassal if you renounce your claims on this and this land. or I will compensate your damage of war by paying 150 ducats but you have to release this personal union fellow of yours.
What happened to exchange of good will between huge powers that can't really defeat each other ?
Who has ever heard of "White peace" during the middle ages ? The first example of european white peace was after Napoleon was defeated in 1814 and Europe was brought back to its ancient limits.
I am annoyed by that. Often, wars don't aim at conquest, but simply at political objectives. As such, you don't need to go "all-out" to obtain what you want.
If you look at wars between France and England, HRE and Spain, or even Venice and Austria, it was NEVER a one sided treaty, Even when the warscore was at 100.
Wouldn't there be a way to trade those favours using the warscore ? Your concessions adding to it while your demands decrease it, and make the AI accept when it is close to 0 on the negociation pannel ?
EX : You have 35 of Warscore. You negotiate to renounce claims on 2 provinces, giving you a warscore of 50. With those 50 you can ask for 3 provinces, bringing the warscore between 0-5. If you demand too much, the warscore goes negative and your proposal goes rejected.
Making the treaty still advantageous for you but a lot more realistic.
Thank you for your attention
