Peace Negotiations

[Sparrow]

If one is not the leader of an Alliance and does not want to conduct a seperate peace will the ai alliance leader consult you before having territories ceded to yourself? Or at least ones you have no claim on?

Let's say for example that I am Italy and in a war with France against Austria-Hungaria and I've captured some Austrian territory that doesn't represent Italia Irredenta when it comes time for peace settlements and I don't want the trouble of administrating provinces that will chafe under my rule. Will the French AI poll me to see if I want provinces that I don't have claims on or will it automatically have some of these given to me as part of the peace settlement? Which would also cause my badboy rep to suffer since I have no claim on these provinces.

 

[Sparrow]

Or I could forget about keeping my neighbors happy and create a 'Conference of Fort Worth' event where the Lone Star Republic and Italy make a treaty where the LSR gets all of North America and Italy gets all of Europe?

Really I just hope there is a way to avoid gaining provinces you don't want when an AI country is the leader of an alliance and makes a peace agreement.

 

[unmerged(10416)]

Originally posted by Sparrow
Or I could forget about keeping my neighbors happy and create a 'Conference of Fort Worth' event where the Lone Star Republic and Italy make a treaty where the LSR gets all of North America and Italy gets all of Europe?

... eh?

 

[John Poole]

I think he means will you be able to define spheres of influence with your allies....so Britain wont sneak off with ALsace during WWI or something.

 

[Sparrow]

It was more a joke than anything else. I was more concerned about the part I originally posted about. In which if I'm not in the conquer the world mode I want to try to avoid gaining territories that I do not have a claim on unless I actually want them. IE I would try to avoid having the ai arbitrarily assign me territories that I currently occupy when a peace treaty is signed.

 

[unmerged(9895)]

well if you didnt want the territory you could always sell it back to the original owner for cheap, so atleast you may profit a bit from the war

 

[unmerged(7537)]

Probably this will be handled somehow via claims, example:
The UK and France fighting Germany, the BEF somehow conquers Alsace-Lorraine, but since France has a claim over it, France gets the province.

 

[unmerged(3168)]

If it's like HoI then (IIRC) the nation that boarders the province would get the province, National claim or not. It will be interesting to see how the game handles funny situations like if an ally gets control over a province you have a claim on.

 

[Sparrow]

Well if it is like hoi the person with the claim always gets the province. However what if you are in a situation where no one has a claim? Oh well hopefully you will be able to sell back and recover any negative effects of conquering territory you have no claim over.

Oh well, I just hope that there is a bit more flavor between the various army divisions of the world than in HoI. My non-educated opinion only of course. Maybe several different ways of teching up your infantry, artillery, etc to show different uses in battles that are viable.

edit and another thing :

If one was to create a new country instead of giving the territory back, would it be possible for this new country to not automatically receive the tech achievements of your country. But instead be linked to the level in which the territory is developed.

 

[unmerged(19226)]

Will there be ultimatum option in peace negotiations? I think it should be included from historical point of view .
For example; as Spain I will send ultimatum to France: give me Aquitania or I will declare war on you

 

[unmerged(14689)]

Could I get another power to leave me alone in some part of the world by giving in to his demands in another part? Let's say I play Russia ( ) and I promise the Brits not to advance further south to India. Can I get a carte blanche from them against the Ottomans/a recognition of my claim on Constantinople? No alliance against the Ottomans, but just a "we'll look the other way if you were to decide to act". This example of a trade isn't really a fair one probably, but you get the idea...

 

[unmerged(19752)]

As part of a peace treaty can you make a new country rather than take the territory yourself.
Example:
Napoleon II repeats Napoleon's feats and defeats Russia and Prussia. Can France create a friendly Polish government rather than taking the territory for France?
I am asking this because in EU II if you take over territory in a peace treaty and later on create a vassal, it hurts your reputation to take territory you do not have a claim on. If you could create a vassal at the same time as the peace treaty, you would not suffer penalty to your reputation.
I am assuming that you cannot liberate a country until you have a peace treaty. Am I right on this point?

 

[Sparrow]

Yeah but the thing I hate about creating new countries, especially if you are in the tech lead, is that they get all your knowledge. That's kind of wish it was linked to the development of the region/province and education of the populace or some such.

For example let's say I took over Cyprus in EUII but later on decided to let it become it's own country. Cyprus goes from the 15/15 nation it was to 60/60. Even if I had never done anything to develop the province.

edit: Now let's say I do this to some small African country that I decided was no longer tenable to keep. I've probably just unleashed a local super-power that might decide to gobble up all it's neighbors that aren't owned by a colonial power. Silly scenario and I imagine it won't happen but I'll complain about, tongue and cheek, it anyways.