Peace conference after defeating Japan

[Selzro]

This may be a bug or suggestions issue, but before I post it in any other place I'd like to know whether this is normal, or whether I'm doing something wrong.

So, playing as the UK I defeated Germany and had some weird things happen in Europe as a result of the peace conference, but that was my first time using the system, so I chalked it up to me not knowing what I was doing. But now, I've defeated Japan and its puppets, and I kept a save just before the last major capitulation so I could figure out how to properly get the post-war map that I want.

What I'd like is a democratic Korea (either independent or a puppet), a democratic puppet Japan, and a free, democratic China; united if possible. But whenever Japan and any of its former puppets remain alive after the end of the process, those states remain Japan's puppets, even though they appeared to be my (or my allies') puppets during peace negotiations.

I tried to grab all of Japan's states, so I could free it as a puppet myself, later, but it can't be done. Athough I have, by far, the most victory score, it's far from enough to get all of Japan in the first round, and the USA will invariably change Japan's government, so it will remain alive, even if it's in one province; even if that's not one of Japan's original provinces.

Here's one outcome, where I managed to get all of Japan's home states before the USA changed its government in Shanghai.

The Republic of China (and all other Chinese countries which had their governments changed by my allies), remains a puppet of Japan. The Soviet Union always declares war on that new Japan immediately after the conference is resolved (and there's nothing I can do about it because it's not my puppet, and we have a truce).

So... is this normal?

 

[CharlesV]

I am desperately afraid so. In my most recent game, the US have taken it upon themselves to 'restore order' to large parts of Catalonia, and the French have re-integrated their core state of Saxony, preferring to leave Belgium with the Rhine. France too control the vitally important Albanian mountains and, as for Poland, they seem happy to annex the southern part of Yugoslavia as just reward for their efforts in the war (about 10K dead, lasted at least a month).

The most confusing part of a peace deal is, when changing the government type, it releases a puppet in the capital state but no others, meaning you need to annex the rest of, say, Japan, for democratic Tokyo.

As for the outbreak of WWIII shortly after the peace conference, that's perfectly normal. Usually the US will, recognizing the huge danger of the democratic regime in Germany gaining its first division some four months after peace, use their focus "War Plan [strange colour]" to attack, calling in Germany's own faction, the Allies. The cominern usually attack as well, for strategic reasons fathomable only inside the feverish mind of a low-level bureaucrat in the Kremlin.

You can try downloading the player-led peace conferences mod on steam but in Ironman you just have to accept your new reality and chalk it up to "zones of influence" and the like rather than full-blooded American annexation of the Chinese coast, which is a far more vulgar term.

 

[HUNK_the_4th]

Hello everyone. SO basically, I just walked into, what I think is one of the weirdest bug I have seen in quite a while of my young age. I am playing Kingdom of Romania, year is now 1947, I have capitulated the Soviets in a separated war along with the Allies, gg for them and Peace conference triggered, and I declared war at some point during WW2 against puppet fascist Slovakia and I have capitulated ALL nations taking part on the other side of the conflict in the Axis, including Germany, Italy, and Japan, in 1946 at 100% as part of the Allies faction. They have no territory left whatsoever in the world except several un-destroyable land divisions bugged in the Bay of Bengal and 1868 ennemy airplanes holding orders in an airport within Siam controlled province by the newly form fascist Free India government. Yes, the German-Luxembourg war is 100% in Allies' favor.

Now, it is good to know that during the war, 2 allied Government went Fascist : half of Poland did and we correctly capitulated them.
Then, at some point near Japan's capitulation, Free India liberated itself from British Raj (now known as India), however, British Raj is still existing, but the 2 of them havent been to war together.
EVEN MORE SUPRISING : Fascist Free India remained on our side of the war, apparently, against all Axis nations, but they themselves were part of the Axis... I took screenshots to prove it here. Now Peace conference wont trigger since 1 year and half, Allies have drawn plans to invade Free India, but it is likely that such a war will never happen as they are part of the war with UK and Allies vs the rest of fascist Axis nations.

So I decided to attempt doing the following thing : to Stage a democratic coup in Axis Free India. Well, 2 coups failed in a row and I am running out of solutions.

I would like to know if there is a solution to this situation to make Peace conference trigger at long last...?

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[CharlesV]

Sorry to disappoint and say I don't know, I just wanted to take a moment and show my appreciation for those gargantuan losses.

Did you use consoles or anything to spawn Free India? Sounds obvious but it might be an answer as to how it happened.

But anyway, knowing the Peace Conferences in HOIV, you're probably better off locked in a war.

 

[HUNK_the_4th]

Sir, I am playing on Ironman, I havent used any kind of cheating. No, I havent spawned anything, neither used console.
Thanks for your help anyways.

 

[Selzro]

That's the weirdest thing I've seen in this game so far. It looks like Free India is both in the Axis and at war with the Axis. I can't begin to wrap my mind around it.