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I'm surprised no one picked a native tribe. With CoP they have a potential to become really huge. And why pick Morocco when Tunisia's so blobbed? You can just conquer them fast if you want to colonise. There's also a void in the HRE now. If only Austria's there they can unify it and become really strong. Instead of picking tons of asian countries that are guaranteed to clash it would be much smarter to go for the HRE and the new world.

Sulṭanat Misr al-Mamālīk will guarantee their Sunni brothers independence against the wrongful Tunisia who is a threat to stability of North Africa.
Allāhu Akbar!
 

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Wait seriously I forgot to post stats and map? Jeez I'm getting horrible at this, I'll fix it in a moment.
 

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Current Score
  1. Ottomans 133 (+0.84)
  2. Burgundy 121 (+0.90)
  3. France 119 (+0.57)
  4. Ming 88 (+0.74)
  5. Aragon 81 (+0.07)
  6. Hungary 75 (+0.28)
  7. Venice 74 (+0.25)
  8. Austria 67 (+0.30)
  9. Brandenburg 60 (+0.53)
  10. Muscovy 42 (+0.32)
  11. Poland 40 (+0.25)
  12. Crimea 36 (+0.15)
  13. Portugal 36 (+0.10)
  14. Lithuania 36 (+0.30)
  15. Denmark 28 (+0.00)
  16. The Mamluks 24 (+0.05)
  17. England 24 (+0.05)
  18. Sweden 21 (+0.00)
  19. Cleves 21 (+0.26)
  20. Timurids 20 (+0.00)
Income
  1. Ming 47.04
  2. Burgundy 29.68
  3. France 27.97
  4. Ottomans 26.68
  5. Austria 25.19
  6. The Mamluks 24.20
  7. Venice 22.78
  8. Aragon 20.74
  9. Muscovy 18.81
  10. Sweden 18.56
  11. Lithuania 18.07
  12. Portugal 16.74
  13. Qara Qoyunlu 16.41
  14. Denmark 15.98
  15. Crimea 15.88
  16. Uzbek 15.71
  17. England 14.25
  18. Timurids 13.68
  19. Poland 12.95
  20. Kilwa 11.73
Max. Manpower
  1. France 67,790
  2. Austria 63,330
  3. Ming 62,090
  4. Ottomans 47,810
  5. Burgundy 45,040
  6. Aragon 38,420
  7. Lithuania 37,250
  8. Crimea 37,040
  9. Muscovy 32,780
  10. The Mamluks 31,310
  11. Timurids 29,730
  12. Poland 28,900
  13. Uzbek 28,460
  14. Venice 26,390
  15. Qara Qoyunlu 26,300
  16. England 24,750
  17. Persia 24,570
  18. Hungary 21,560
  19. Portugal 21,450
  20. Bengal 19,890
Standing Army
  1. Ming 58,000
  2. France 33,683
  3. Crimea 30,000
  4. Lithuania 28,532
  5. Aragon 26,042
  6. Austria 25,857
  7. Qara Qoyunlu 24,503
  8. Ottomans 24,185
  9. Iroquois 24,000
  10. Huron 21,000
  11. Shawnee 20,000
  12. Creek 20,000
  13. Denmark 20,000
  14. Timurids 18,989
  15. England 18,785
  16. The Mamluks 18,453
  17. Venice 18,000
  18. Portugal 18,000
  19. Uzbek 17,986
  20. Potawatomi 17,000
War Fleet
  1. The Mamluks 0/35
  2. France 2/22
  3. Ming 0/16
  4. Aragon 1/13
  5. Ottomans 0/12
  6. Venice 0/12
  7. Korea 0/11
  8. Naples 0/9
  9. Hosokawa 0/7
  10. Persia 0/7
  11. Portugal 7/0
  12. Crimea 0/5
  13. Dai Viet 0/5
  14. Denmark 5/0
  15. Tunisia 0/5
  16. Morocco 4/0
  17. Sweden 0/4
  18. Ouchi 0/4
  19. Cyprus 0/3
  20. Norway 3/0
Trade Fleet
  1. Ming 32
  2. Venice 28
  3. The Mamluks 25
  4. Burgundy 22
  5. Ottomans 20
  6. Ayutthaya 16
  7. Aceh 13
  8. Aragon 11
  9. Oman 11
  10. Brunei 11
  11. Majapahit 10
  12. Denmark 10
  13. Portugal 9
  14. Morocco 8
  15. Pegu 6
  16. Korea 6
  17. Naples 6
  18. Makassar 6
  19. Persia 6
  20. Orissa 6
Technologies
  1. Hungary 17
  2. Ottomans 16
  3. Switzerland 16
  4. Brandenburg 16
  5. Denmark 16
  6. Lithuania 16
  7. Perm 16
  8. Venice 15
  9. Norway 15
  10. Burgundy 15
  11. Savoy 15
  12. Hesse 15
  13. Sweden 15
  14. The Papal State 14
  15. Oman 14
  16. Portugal 14
  17. Naples 14
  18. Milan 14
  19. Scotland 14
  20. Brittany 14


Sorry for the delay....
 

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Starts as Muscovian vassal, nothing special about them as far as I could tell when I tried them, except that you have 20 years before you get annexed.

Perm starts with a fantastic monarch and heir (6/4/5 and 6/5/5 off the top of my head). Hungary also gets great rulers from the Hunyadi DHEs, so there's the common factor.
 

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  1. France 388 (+0.70)
  2. Ottomans 366 (+0.81)
  3. Burgundy 352 (+0.82)
  4. Ming 334 (+1.14)
  5. Venice 331 (+1.82)
  6. Aragon 309 (+1.02)
  7. Austria 204 (+0.25)
  8. Portugal 144 (+0.47)
  9. Hungary 118 (+0.04)
  10. Denmark 112 (+0.42)
  11. Poland 107 (+0.00)
  12. Lithuania 104 (+0.00)
  13. The Mamluks 98 (+0.53)
  14. Muscovy 86 (+0.27)
  15. Brandenburg 71 (+0.00)
  16. England 67 (+0.28)
  17. Oldenburg 64 (+0.00)
  18. The Palatinate 62 (+0.60)
  19. Crimea 56 (+0.00)
  20. Genoa 37 (+0.00)
Income
  1. Venice 58.76
  2. Ming 50.52
  3. France 47.16
  4. Aragon 45.03
  5. Portugal 39.65
  6. The Mamluks 38.69
  7. Burgundy 36.08
  8. Austria 33.85
  9. Ottomans 32.98
  10. Denmark 30.50
  11. Lithuania 23.16
  12. Muscovy 21.69
  13. Timurids 21.23
  14. Sweden 21.19
  15. Poland 20.27
  16. Uzbek 18.96
  17. Brandenburg 16.93
  18. Crimea 15.87
  19. Brunei 14.49
  20. Persia 14.40
Max. Manpower
  1. Ming 101K
  2. France 87,730
  3. Austria 64,890
  4. Ottomans 57,220
  5. Venice 53,690
  6. Muscovy 49,760
  7. Burgundy 48,850
  8. Aragon 48,180
  9. Lithuania 45,000
  10. Timurids 43,910
  11. Poland 39,290
  12. Crimea 38,720
  13. The Mamluks 36,980
  14. Uzbek 36,320
  15. Denmark 36,230
  16. Persia 26,330
  17. Brandenburg 24,620
  18. England 24,500
  19. Sweden 23,770
  20. Naples 23,480
Standing Army
  1. France 67,000
  2. Ming 65,318
  3. Muscovy 48,000
  4. Venice 44,000
  5. Austria 43,000
  6. Lithuania 42,000
  7. Ottomans 41,000
  8. Poland 39,000
  9. The Mamluks 37,632
  10. Burgundy 34,899
  11. Aragon 33,000
  12. Denmark 29,993
  13. Crimea 27,000
  14. Iroquois 26,000
  15. Sweden 25,000
  16. Portugal 24,000
  17. Brandenburg 23,779
  18. England 22,108
  19. Shawnee 20,000
  20. Japan 19,627
War Fleet
  1. The Mamluks 0/42
  2. Venice 2/35
  3. Ming 0/16
  4. Ottomans 0/15
  5. Aragon 1/13
  6. Korea 0/11
  7. Morocco 6/5
  8. Denmark 10/0
  9. Naples 0/10
  10. Poland 0/9
  11. Brandenburg 0/8
  12. England 3/5
  13. Hosokawa 0/7
  14. Portugal 7/0
  15. Persia 0/7
  16. Crimea 0/5
  17. Dai Viet 0/5
  18. Japan 0/4
  19. Sweden 0/4
  20. Algiers 0/4
Trade Fleet
  1. Venice 53
  2. France 33
  3. Ming 32
  4. Denmark 26
  5. Ottomans 25
  6. Burgundy 22
  7. The Mamluks 21
  8. Sweden 20
  9. Brunei 19
  10. Aragon 18
  11. Poland 13
  12. Oman 11
  13. Portugal 9
  14. Ayutthaya 8
  15. Zapotec 8
  16. Brandenburg 7
  17. Persia 7
  18. Inca 7
  19. Orissa 7
  20. Korea 6
Technologies
  1. Hungary 25
  2. Burgundy 24
  3. Sweden 24
  4. Lithuania 24
  5. Savoy 23
  6. Brandenburg 23
  7. Brittany 23
  8. Hesse 23
  9. Denmark 22
  10. Ottomans 22
  11. Oman 22
  12. Switzerland 22
  13. Naples 22
  14. England 21
  15. France 21
  16. Portugal 21
  17. Augsburg 21
  18. Persia 20
  19. Aragon 20
  20. Venice 19
 

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Fairly sure this session we'll root for the Mughals to stop the Ming dynasty honestly..

Don't worry, the Mamelukes will take care of it.
I too want to report under the QA Interns
 
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500px-Mameluke_Flag.svg.png

Sulṭanat Misr al-Mamālīk

The Mamelukes are running dry on small slaver boys to train into the military service of the Sultanate. The arid deserts of Africa turned out to not have as much population as we would have wanted. However my advisers have come to me with the grand information that there are in the east, grand fields of manpower who are begging for leadership from me as their supreme Sultan. The lower nobility called "Mings" however are currently resisting Allah's will and preventing us from this much valuable resource and performing infidel practices. Thus the Mamelukes will have to sail over the Indian Sea to take what Allah has demanded.

Allāhu Akbar!

- Sultan Timurbughâ I of the Burji dynasty, Mameluke Sultan of Egypt and Africa, Liberator of the Mamelukes, Protector of The Holy Land, Crusher of Ming.
 

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the mamelukes are running dry on small slaver boys to train into the military service of the sultanate. The arid deserts of africa turned out to not have as much population as we would have wanted. However my advisers have come to me with the grand information that there are in the east, grand fields of manpower who are begging for leadership from me as their supreme sultan. The lower nobility called "mings" however are currently resisting allah's will and preventing us from this much valuable resource and performing infidel practices. Thus the mamelukes will have to sail over the indian sea to take what allah has demanded.

allāhu akbar!

- sultan timurbughâ i of the burji dynasty, mameluke sultan of egypt and africa, liberator of the mamelukes, protector of the holy land, crusher of ming.

Alea Iacta Est
 

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Wow, Mamelukes took Mutapa already?

He might even get to Ming before the Portuguese.

Since I am planning an Invasion of Ming, yes I probably will ^^
 

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Wow, Mamelukes took Mutapa already?

He might even get to Ming before the Portuguese.

There have been portugese ships in Nanking since a long time..

The King of Portugal has paid his tribute to the Celestial Throne, and we welcome the Sultans of Cairo to kneel as well.
 

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I am fully aware of the godly rulers but it just ... well Perm doesn't seem like a good choice for a MP game ... especially if someone is playing with Muscovy ...

I didn't say they were, was just explaining why AI Perm had great tech.
 

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So Diplo tech increases global settler increase? Hum now Muscowy can get expansion first, integrate Perm, level diplo tech and swarm over siberia in a similar way as they can in 1.5?


EDIT: A_Spec said that Expansion was changed to be a ADM tree instead of a DIP tree in order to help colonizers. I assume he's talking about historical colonizers such as Portugal, Spain, England and France. Why did they need help? Was this change induced so that they colonize faster? I fail to see why this is necessary.

Settler Growth increases from tech. The default base Settler Growth was cut because colonization was too fast.
 

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So as Portugal, choosing Exploration as first NI, getting 1st colonist, without leveling Diplo tech AT ALL, the only settler increase i'll get will be from the colonist himself?

It's +25 at tech 3, so you'll get some, just less than before.
 

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The time has come, my fellow Japanese, to rally to a new banner. In unity lies strength; already many of the dissident factions have joined us. Out of the many we shall forge an indivisible whole capitulating only to a single throne, and from that throne I shall watch over you. From this day forward let no Japanese make war upon any other Japanese, let no Asian agency conspire against this new beginning, and let no samurai consort with foreign powers, and to all the enemies of Japan: seek not to bar our way, for we shall win through, no matter the cost!

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