PDS Developer Multiplayer Sessions - Res Publica

[Mauer]

If you're going to be starting a new game, how about doing something a bit different? It's tiresome seeing the same old blobs, why don't you all start as OPMs?

If they're trying out the 30 years war I would hope they chose at least a bunch of minor german powers. They can always pick nation again if they get taken out.

 

[Johan]

The World of 1804.

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## STATS FOR MP ###
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Current Score

1. Portugal 17674 (+13.09)
2. France 14340 (+7.73)
3. Denmark 12945 (+8.43)
4. Netherlands 12809 (+5.12)
5. Ming 11051 (+10.67)
6. Sweden 10494 (+10.67)
7. Venice 7438 (+0.00)
8. Malaya 7309 (+6.63)
9. Austria 4651 (+1.39)
10. Spain 4500 (+2.94)
11. Oman 2033 (+0.36)
12. Byzantium 1431 (+1.94)
13. Colombia 1383 (+0.29)
14. Egypt 1021 (+0.32)
15. Morocco 1014 (+0.00)
16. Muscovy 946 (+0.00)
17. Great Britain 436 (+0.69)
18. Nieuw Nederland 410 (+0.00)
19. Hungary 367 (+0.00)
20. Poland 224 (+0.00)

Income

1. Portugal 472.66
2. Sweden 358.79
3. Denmark 338.49
4. Ming 335.68
5. Malaya 329.30
6. France 289.00
7. Netherlands 218.53
8. Spain 157.72
9. Austria 154.13
10. Egypt 154.05
11. Great Britain 138.75
12. Byzantium 136.39
13. Hungary 124.11
14. Poland 121.32
15. Oman 118.41
16. Colombia 118.20
17. Nieuw Nederland 105.92
18. Muscovy 87.87
19. Kameloso 70.90
20. Spisnegel 63.20

Max. Manpower

1. France 518K
2. Sweden 450K
3. Ming 446K
4. Portugal 371K
5. Byzantium 354K
6. Muscovy 311K
7. Spain 242K
8. Denmark 234K
9. Oman 200K
10. Malaya 186K
11. Poland 183K
12. Austria 178K
13. Egypt 146K
14. Netherlands 131K
15. Nieuw Nederland 123K
16. Japan 120K
17. Hungary 113K
18. Willemsland 76,400
19. Great Britain 74,720
20. Colombia 59,590

Standing Army

1. Ming 419K
2. Portugal 404K
3. Sweden 395K
4. France 366K
5. Denmark 300K
6. Netherlands 294K
7. Austria 232K
8. Malaya 182K
9. Spain 156K
10. Muscovy 145K
11. Oman 125K
12. Poland 111K
13. Japan 102K
14. Egypt 96,000
15. Byzantium 94,000
16. Nieuw Nederland 78,738
17. Hungary 65,000
18. Colombia 63,000
19. Great Britain 49,000
20. Spisnegel 35,000

War Fleet

1. France 213/37
2. Portugal 197/0
3. Denmark 187/0
4. Netherlands 136/0
5. Malaya 102/20
6. Ming 93/0
7. Spain 77/0
8. Sweden 58/0
9. Egypt 40/0
10. Byzantium 0/36
11. Austria 24/4
12. Great Britain 28/0
13. Poland 14/8
14. Colombia 20/0
15. Morocco 20/0
16. Spisnegel 8/0
17. Kameloso 6/0
18. Christiania 6/0
19. Malayan Australia 3/0
20. Hindustan 2/0

Trade Fleet

1. Malaya 182
2. Portugal 177
3. Denmark 123
4. Great Britain 81
5. Colombia 80
6. Sweden 72
7. Byzantium 68
8. Oman 54
9. Poland 47
10. Egypt 38
11. Morocco 38
12. Kameloso 28
13. Spain 27
14. Spisnegel 15
15. Christiania 14
16. Muscovy 13
17. Hungary 12
18. Malayan Australia 6
19. Austria 5
20. Tunisia 4

Technologies

1. Portugal 92
2. France 92
3. Malaya 91
4. Denmark 91
5. Netherlands 91
6. Ming 91
7. Colombia 90
8. Sweden 90
9. Great Britain 89
10. Hungary 89
11. Austria 89
12. Byzantium 87
13. Oman 86
14. Morocco 86
15. Kameloso 86
16. Danskjävlar 86
17. Muscovy 85
18. Spisnegel 85
19. Newfoundland 84
20. English Louisiana 84

 

[Karkento]

Great to the stats! Any of the devs care to tell us what happened from their perspective. What happened in that epic standoff in Alsace-Lorraine?

 

[Unready]

The World of 1804.
3. Denmark 12945 (+8.43)

So, Wiz targets for 3rd place as he predicted before this game started.

 

[NTGuardian]

So sad we couldn't watch it play out, and it appears the game won't be much longer. But I'm excited to hear of CKII MP sessions starting, and the observer god is kinda fun (hopefully this is an optional feature). If only I didn't have classes at that time, so I could watch and vote live. It would be even cooler if after you finish the CK2 game you import it into EU4 and keep playing.

 

[Wizzington]

Great to the stats! Any of the devs care to tell us what happened from their perspective. What happened in that epic standoff in Alsace-Lorraine?

The war you guys were watching ended after we occupied Netherlands 100%, forced him to give up a bunch of provinces... but ended up being stab hitted out of the main war for Oldenburg due to battle warscore. Then followed another war in which we took five more provinces from Netherlands, followed by another war in which we lost two, and now we're on the Fifth World War which we are comfortably winning. The last few remaining years are likely just going to be more of these wars, which tend to come down to whoever botches a battle since battles give crazy amounts of warscore when you have millions of soldiers fighting.

My explanation really does not do justice to how tense these wars are, though.

 

[yonaz]

The good side are winning though, western europe is evil!

 

[Servancour]

Of course they are. They are not fighting alongside the rightful emperor!

 

[Avernite]

I wonder how many are now feeling real silly for expelling Portugal from Europe.

Or, for that matter, for still losing to a player who lost his whole homeland in the early sessions

 

[ragingrondo12]

I wonder how many are now feeling real silly for expelling Portugal from Europe.

Or, for that matter, for still losing to a player who lost his whole homeland in the early sessions

Portuguese Reconquest of ancestral lands time?

 

[unmerged(1823)]

I wonder how many are now feeling real silly for expelling Portugal from Europe.

Or, for that matter, for still losing to a player who lost his whole homeland in the early sessions

1st, 4th & 7th will be the players that were driven out of Europe in the first session...

 

[A_Spec]

It ends tomorrow.

 

[Calad]

Hi.

I liked to follow this but looks like every game, thought there has been only two of them, follow same pattern: early kick some rivals out and blob. Then do pretty much nothing. Late game wars are boring and very indecisive.

 

[DSYoungEsq]

The last few remaining years are likely just going to be more of these wars, which tend to come down to whoever botches a battle since battles give crazy amounts of warscore when you have millions of soldiers fighting.

In Trade of Kings, we had to consider implementing a game rule to limit attempts to stab hit during war because of exactly this fact: an early battle loss could result in facing stab hit situations before a war had truly sorted itself out. Your experience seems to verify this. My suggestion: war score from battles should be logarithmically scaled to size of forces.

 

[TheLetterZ]

I wonder how many are now feeling real silly for expelling Portugal from Europe.

Or, for that matter, for still losing to a player who lost his whole homeland in the early sessions

I feel a bit silly as the only one fighting (and succeeding) to let him live..

 

[Nostra]

If they're trying out the 30 years war I would hope they chose at least a bunch of minor german powers. They can always pick nation again if they get taken out.

Could try the Scenario of the Primi Tuesday Game. It breaks off Europe into smaller entities and levels the playing field for many nations

 

[Mauer]

That battle of Fyn.

 

[A_Spec]

That battle of Fyn.

It's now paved with the corpses of the fallen.

 

[yahiko]

Epic comments, great ending session.

 

[ForzaA]

I feel a bit silly as the only one fighting (and succeeding) to let him live..

I can hardly be faulted for assuming that "talk to Alexivan" means Alexivan decides..

(that, and assuming gratitude lasts 400 years would be.. perhaps a bit optimistic if nothing is done to rekindle said gratitude)

That said.. Machiavelli had it right; "If an injury has to be done to a man, it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared".
which basically leaves only one decision; whether the injury has to be done or not.