PDS Developer Multiplayer Sessions - A whole Season of EU4 Beta

[Wizzington]

It is quite easy, I'm part of the Alliance, that is why people hate it :rofl:

You have left the Empire and joined the Alliance?! Rebel scum!

 

[aragonFTW]

No Roger on the map...

so everyone in the empire has sea, or will do within 5 minutes of besuchov finishing france off... do the beer drinkers and the beer makers want colonies? who will the HRE carve a chunk out of next?

 

[TheArchduke]

I guess overseas Germany meaning America.

 

[spinoza013]

What are thoughts on a pre-war negotiation/ultimatums for all countries?
You can ask for things like anulment of treaties, releasing vassals, trade power etc, etc. under the threat of war. Similar to how the Emperor can make demands for unlawful territory, religious conformity etc.
A small country may agree to terms rather than be invaded.
It could be expanded to more complex negotiations between countries like swapping trade power for gold, provinces etc. You could pre-negotiate alliances or Royal marriages.
I'm assuming it would be too much for AI and slow game down though?

 

[Groogy]

You have left the Empire and joined the Alliance?! Rebel scum!

The jigg is up the jigg is up!
*runs away*

 

[migalhone]

The jigg is up the jigg is up!
*runs away*

Guess we are up to a treat tomorrow. And by treat i mean cluster**** and bloodshed :rofl:

 

[Groogy]

National Anthem of Aragon, Protector of the Italian States.

When Aragon first, at Heaven's command
Arose from out the azure main;
This was the charter of the land,
And guardian angels sang this strain:
"Rule, Italia! rule the waves:
"Italians never will be slaves."

The nations, not so blest as thee,
Must, in their turns, to tyrants fall;
While thou shalt flourish great and free,
The dread and envy of them all.
"Rule, Italia! rule the waves:
"Italians never will be slaves."

Still more majestic shalt thou rise,
More dreadful, from each foreign stroke;
As the loud blast that tears the skies,
Serves but to root thy native oak.
"Rule, Italia! rule the waves:
"Italians never will be slaves."

Thee haughty tyrants ne'er shall tame:
All their attempts to bend thee down,
Will but arouse thy generous flame;
But work their woe, and thy renown.
"Rule, Italia! rule the waves:
"Italians never will be slaves."

To thee belongs the rural reign;
Thy cities shall with commerce shine:
All thine shall be the subject main,
And every shore it circles thine.
"Rule, Italia! rule the waves:
"Italians never will be slaves."

The Muses, still with freedom found,
Shall to thy happy coast repair;
Blest Isle! With matchless beauty crown'd,
And manly hearts to guard the fair.
"Rule, Italia! rule the waves:
"Italians never will be slaves."

Changed from Italian to English, and yes I know I am lazy

 

[A_Spec]

An overview of last week.

[video=youtube;8-EyjxqqFWU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-EyjxqqFWU[/video]

and for the bar

[video=youtube;0wwsfYkCSrM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wwsfYkCSrM[/video]

 

[Methaluan]

No Roger on the map...

so everyone in the empire has sea, or will do within 5 minutes of besuchov finishing france off... do the beer drinkers and the beer makers want colonies? who will the HRE carve a chunk out of next?

Probably Iberian realms, hardly they will be able to stand on they own even with the colonies back and allies. However if they go for Iberia, the Russian and Muslim will probalbly hit the east front, and then everyone jumps on the war wagon to beat the empire with a stick yet again. Also, I fear the Great Britain, Scandinavia and the Ottomans will be a new nest for the imperial eagle next session. Also intressted to see if the empire passes the next reform, prevents war amoung state member I belive, if the empire is a united as its claims to be, should be no problem. The people demand Aragon for emperor, because who controls Rome controls the universe, however does not control Mordor.

On a side note, if there anything I have against the empire, the is the way nations expand around and trough each other. I my opinion, there needs to be a change in the rival system that allways demand at least one neighbouring nation to be your rival, even if it is automatic. Also, another change I sugest would be mandatory the two nation be rival to each other to actully make to power projection and the rival system work, like if someone make you as rival, you becames rival to them too or something. Anyways, just a tip.

Whatever happen will be most certainly intressting.

 

[Labrynian Rebel]

Looks like the Holy Roman Empire wants colonies....

 

[bleakie]

Perhaps it is better to make picking rivals always giving positive power projection, and enemies (countries that mark you as rival) giving negative power projection? This way there will always be an incentive for picking a rival.

Another idea is to make power projection maximum when you are slightly stronger than your rival, so that it would not be used as a tool of bullying or ridiculous giant-killing.

 

[Mamluke]

I want to Understand why Russia did not take its chance to reclaim the territories under Swedish Rule and push towards Finland?! the only logical scenario I can think of is if Poland (back by some HRE members) warned Russia not to intervene but even so, why would Poland risk a prolong war for sweden?

Sweden is a dead power in the current game, and now with pre-Prussia coming in with the support of the HRE?! it should be Russia top priority to secure those lands that belong to mother Russia and establish Finland has a buffer state.

if any one could tell me why that is a bad Idea I would appreciate it

 

[Goosecreature]

It's time for Spain and Russia to make friends with Muslims...

We tried this once. The Muslims backstabbed everyone else in exchange for a few Polish provinces, which the HRE then promptly took back the next session when they had finished dealing with their other enemies to the west, north and east.

To be honest, at this point I'd rather support the HRE than the Muslims, and the Spanish-Portuguese alliance is now on friendly terms with Aragon.

 

[unmerged(652342)]

I want to Understand why Russia did not take its chance to reclaim the territories under Swedish Rule and push towards Finland?! the only logical scenario I can think of is if Poland (back by some HRE members) warned Russia not to intervene but even so, why would Poland risk a prolong war for sweden?

Sweden is a dead power in the current game, and now with pre-Prussia coming in with the support of the HRE?! it should be Russia top priority to secure those lands that belong to mother Russia and establish Finland has a buffer state.

if any one could tell me why that is a bad Idea I would appreciate it

- i think Russia is now next in line to partition. Syberia will go to Ming, steppes will go to Mughals and European part will go to HRE's Poland.

 

[Slargos]

What are thoughts on a pre-war negotiation/ultimatums for all countries?
You can ask for things like anulment of treaties, releasing vassals, trade power etc, etc. under the threat of war. Similar to how the Emperor can make demands for unlawful territory, religious conformity etc.
A small country may agree to terms rather than be invaded.
It could be expanded to more complex negotiations between countries like swapping trade power for gold, provinces etc. You could pre-negotiate alliances or Royal marriages.
I'm assuming it would be too much for AI and slow game down though?

Your proposal is already implemented.

In fact, they're displaying it in this very thread.

It also has a self-learning intelligence implemented. In fact, several self-contained competing self-learning intelligences. It's all quite amazing. The things they can do these days. I remember when a dumb computer intelligence was all you had to compete with. But times have changed, and now you can run with up to 31 SLIs.

 

[Groogy]

Your proposal is already implemented.

In fact, they're displaying it in this very thread.

It also has a self-learning intelligence implemented. In fact, several self-contained competing self-learning intelligences. It's all quite amazing. The things they can do these days. I remember when a dumb computer intelligence was all you had to compete with. But times have changed, and now you can run with up to 31 SLIs.

Shhh Slargos! you are not supposed to tell them that we are all just creations of Wiz...
Also the self-learning part isn't that well written. Only thing I've learned so far is to not trust Camel Jockies.

 

[A_Spec]

I just printed and highlighted the patch notes, we've got a bunch of fun things lined up again.

 

[ForzaA]

Why do Carsten(Netherlands) keep selling his provinces to Besuchov(Bohemia)?

Because HRE politics... (and well, I have a Glorieuze overtocht to carry out)

Yeah maybe it's meant to be monthly. But so far in the stream Netherland hasn't picked any rivals and is still sitting at -3.

That system is still in a very rough shape. And probably can partially be blamed for what happend to Denmark, the Ottomans, and some other nations.

Yeah, it was supposed to tick.. Being good QAs, we found out that it wasn't - informed people*, and abused the hell out of it while we could


*If you ask around in the office, opinions will differ on whether we informed enough people

 

[Honza58]

I just printed and highlighted the patch notes, we've got a bunch of fun things lined up again.

Not sure, how much will I be able to trust the patch notes today...

(Will there be national dog for EU4 too? )

 

[Groogy]