The war we fought was about defending Poland from Swedish territorial demands...
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The war we fought was about defending Poland from Swedish territorial demands...
Odd how that ended. So you're saying demanding stuff from Poland is fine, so long as you're willing to sell an ally's land to the all-devouring HRE?
It's really too bad there is no thread with a recap of all changes, as they were for EUIV and COP releases. I don't have the time to watch all those videos and note all the changes.
If someone would to do such a thread, I would be eternally grateful (and don't think I'd be the only one).
Odd how that ended. So you're saying demanding stuff from Poland is fine, so long as you're willing to sell an ally's land to the all-devouring HRE?
Naw, it was just that we agreed Brandenburg and the Hansa were the ones with the most need for expansion, plus Öresund is much more strategically important than a few Lithuanian provinces. Denmark and Sweden are joined at the hip so taking from one is pretty much taking from the other.
I just hope the rest of Europe recognises the intentions of the HRE before it's to late to stop them (if it isn't already) :ninja:
Is Tuscany inside the Holy Roman Alliance? How about Venice and Savoy?
By the way, how's the affair in Asia? And what is the Scots doing?
My internet broke halfway through the last session, so I'm super curious.
By the way, how's the affair in Asia? And what is the Scots doing?
My internet broke halfway through the last session, so I'm super curious.
Wiz said Austria didn't intervene because the attack was merely to cut down Burgundy. Is that what you are referring?
Austria did said "I'm not trying to reform the Empire. I'm trying to make everyone join the Empire."
Lawful Evil archetype :rofl:
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Tuscany is not - there are reasons (likely named Savoy, Aragon and Austria) that podcat is relocating to the New World. I wish the Confederate States of Free Tuscany all the best - they'll need it against all the massive Portuguese penal colonies.
I believe Savoy is tentatively tied to France, and Venice is bribing Austria to stay alive.
The HRE alliance consists of the Four Princes and the Archduke - Brandenburg, Bohemia, Bavaria, the Hansa and Austria. Poland and Aragon are 'in' the circle for now, but being an HRE member is not a guarantee - the savage assault on the Netherlands a few weeks back shows this, and I wonder if the "payment" to the Turk (one Polish province) shows how high Poland is currently valued. Poland is much better suited for a layer-cake division between the core HRE states than mainland Denmark was, just saying...
Asia is rapidly westernizing (with the exception of Japan, I think), and Brunei has formed Malaya. A new player took charge of Shan, but was immediately attacked from all sides. The Scots are peacefully colonizing, albeit I suspect there's a future confrontation overseas with the relocated Tuscany.
I know we viewers are clamoring for war and carnage (and I'm guilty of being among the mob crying for blood), especially in central Europe - but that's not the name of the game here.
Looking at the score list - I really don't think the surrounding powers - France, Russia and Ottomans, even the Mamelukes and the Mughals - are served by attacking the HRE quintet. Remember, ultimately this game is about the scoreboard, not owning half the world (even if that might help vs. score). We keep berating Guraan for being a passive Ottoman Empire, but he's currently way in the lead on points, and at the moment only Russia and the Mamelukes are gaining on him. If score didn't increase over time, it'd take Russia more than two thousand years to catch up at current rates. Keeping his head down is a fairly sound move. Same for France. Even Russia can be fairly passive at this point, peacefully expanding into Siberia.
To build score, you want a stable empire, large army/navy, good economy, no OE from conquests (OE is a killer vs. trade) and so on. In a score game, fighting a war is essentially only meaningful if you ruin the score gain of a power that's ahead of you, or rapidly catching up to you.
It's still a bit early for 'score wars', but we're getting there... and looking at the lists, that's when old alliances (but not the HRE one, save perhaps some Death in Venice) might crumble.
Think you missed to divide with 12(?), with current values i believe that Russia will be no1 with ~100 points before Ottomans at end date. But still there is probably much that will change before that O
Ah, yes. Oops.Think you missed to divide with 12(?), with current values i believe that Russia will be no1 with ~100 points before Ottomans at end date. But still there is probably much that will change before that O
o Forgot the score is monthly, not annual. My bad.As for things changing before the end, I doubt that not. Destroying a nation entirely is one way to freeze the score, after all.
You know that Poland is an Elector of the HRE... right?
Lawful Evil is my favorite alignment.
Since Asia is not getting as much coverage (fairly, since it's relatively calm while Europe was on fire in most corners), Japan reporting in to clarify that westernization is completed. Wakon-yōsai banzai! :laugh:
Although the Shan situation was a bit confusing, I don't think they were intentionally attacked; more likely their huge neighbours were called into a war that Shan started itself. Partitioning the new player's nation in the first session is a bit brutal even for this merciless game.
Little coverage is an understatement, fair or no. In all the sessions, A_spec is quite quick to do his tentative reporting by clicking on Japan, show us about two seconds, then go "...and back to Europe." before most information comes through. Can only catch so much with brief glances of the political map mode. I've no idea when you westernized, or how (i.e. by which western neighbour). I do think I saw one odd color in the Philippines last session during a brief flyover - greenish, I think. Was that Portugal?
All we ever hear of Japan is how you're about to be invaded by Crimean seahorses, or play 'single-player'. Hope you've built a solid fleet.
As for 'brutal' initiations - I dunno, Nusia's Shawnee didn't have a great first session either, with the advent of Portuguese Rura Penthe.
Hahahah no worries, I was not sure i actually had counted correctly either lolAh, yes. Oops.
In my imagination it is gonna be so interesting and glorious to watch but who knowsAs for things changing before the end, I doubt that not. Destroying a nation entirely is one way to freeze the score, after all.
Portugese green was in there, but the truly odd color in the Philippines was that of Ming.
Also note that Mughals sold one Indian province to Brunei for (presumably) westernisation purposes.
I don't know if it's even possible as I never play in the HRE but is the Confederate States of Free Tuscany part of the HRE, or planning to be once Podcat takes them over next session?
So Reformed is finally getting it's own mechanics? Neat, I hope Protestantism does too.
Can I just quickly ask. Are the YouTube videos meant to be set to "Private"?
Not that I mind if you're uploading them all at once and then releasing them one day at a time, but I thought I'd check to make sure.
Since I want to see if the Empire is going to stay strong, or if the allure of those trophies is going to create some splits and create an implosion.
Not that I mind if you're uploading them all at once and then releasing them one day at a time, but I thought I'd check to make sure.
Since I want to see if the Empire is going to stay strong, or if the allure of those trophies is going to create some splits and create an implosion.