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We demand patch notes!
 

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So, what happened?
 

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Well damn :( But it is a dev beta build which is constantly getting developed so such things are expected.
When can we expect the stream? Next Tuesday or maybe earlier to replace the lack of today's?
 

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It is all my fault. If I hadn't won Sweden's War Of Independence 15 minutes before it was supposed to start, this would never have happened.

I'm sorry, guys. I promise never to do it again.
 

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Hope that tomorrow won't be any problems like last week, i really want to see some virtual blood flowing :)
 

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Who do you think will fall next?

[video=youtube;eJlN9jdQFSc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJlN9jdQFSc[/video]
 

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Hope that tomorrow won't be any problems like last week, i really want to see some virtual blood flowing :)

Yeah... my Italians want to head out and see the world as they stomp on our enemies. Hopefully we will see some bloodshed :D
 

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Who do you think will fall next?

Kinda hard to say. The Netherlands seem like a good target, but considering they've fended off Bohemia and Brandenburg alone (Only the intervention of Austria ended the war in a somewhat positive note for Bohemia and Brandenburg), i'm not so sure. Don't know who is allied to the Dutch.

AFAIK France is still allies with Castile/Spain. If not, maybe they will be the HRE's next target?

Mamluks and Mughals are Westernized and allied, if i'm not mistaken. Maybe they go for the Ottos?

On another note, someone will eventually take issue with Crimea's slithering borders. Silk Road much?

MP indeed sounds terrifying to a pause-button-spammer as myself.
 

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Where's Guraan, why isn't Nibbles playing Mughals (like the god intended)? :-x
I was there, Nibbles just accidentally joined me to rule the empire lol

Mamluks and Mughals are Westernized and allied, if i'm not mistaken. Maybe they go for the Ottos?
Yes they are, but the Muslim Brotherhood & Sister stands united against the other power blocks in this game and it if a backstab against me happens it will probably be much later than next session (i hope lol).

On another note, someone will eventually take issue with Crimea's slithering borders. Silk Road much?
Yeah Brotherhood and sister you know O;)
 

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Sweden is not overpowered.
 

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I suspect this'll be the last time anyone challenges the HRE alliance.

Makes sense, really - the powers that could are ahead in score, and the various HRE states are too small to match them. At least, I presume this is the mindset that the score leaders are adopting, over map-painting.

Next session, it seems the hotspots will be in rapidly westernizing Asia, or between Shawnee and the Confederate States of Free Tuscany vs. Portugal and their eclectically named colonial nations.


On the features listed in this build, in particular the Decisions-to-Policies transformation - I'm not a big fan of having a new mechanic that eats monarch points. Are you removing/reducing monarch point spenditure on something else (basic buildings?), or increasing the basic monarch stats to compensate?

I can only recall one time I actually hit the monarch points cap, and that was during westernization prep as a new world native after conversion (where your cap is downgraded in the process).

Also the need for a combination of two idea groups means it'll take quite a while for even a single policy to become available. Couldn't you compromise so that a completed idea group enables all connected policies, but at double the maintenance cost? Could distinguish this in the interface with a simple Green vs. Yellow color coding on the big slabs of the policy menu - heck, all the ones you currently can't enact could be listed there in Red. Would make it rather visible rather than as a tooltip on the Idea Finisher. Instead, hovering over a 'red' policy icon would give a tooltip explaining which two (or at least one) ideas you'd need. Active policies could be shown with a huge ticky sign across the icon.
 

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I like the policy idea. But you have to really balance these out.

You can't have one idea with 25% manpower recovery and one with 10% spy efficiency.

Seriously. Please make much larger % on the things that aren't as vital. Make it 50% spy efficiency, or 20% production bonus etc. So that you actually notice it.
Make every policy much more impactful, so you can really tell the difference between a nations decisions. 10% trade steering does nothing, it's like 0,5 gold most of the times.
 

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Where's Doomy? My Saxon-Prussians need their leader to dismantle the Polish-Netherlands axis.

And recreate the BBPB (Bigger, Bluer, Prussian Blob) and dominate European Politics.
 
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Because some players play really weird...
You mean like a france that does not take advantage of the situation and expands eastern when all of hre:s combined forces are there?
Or the ottoman empire siding with hre against the northern block with just a single polish province as payment?
The questions are many but still the answer might be in future sessions lol