[PC] Trait System not working

[Horica666]

I have only recently noticed this problem when I went to make a new file and used the Ruler Designer. As the topic stats, the trait system is not working. All the military traits introduced by Legacy of Rome are no longer available. The default number for all 5 trait categories remains at the default no matter what I add as a trait (though the numbers in the parentheses changes). This has only recently happened after I bought Sunset Invasion and got patch 1.08.

I also reinstalled the game twice now. I am going to verify the integrity of the game cache and see if that works.

 

[Horica666]

Just verified the game cache's integrity a few times and nothing worked. I double checked the game and it seems that all military traits are not available.

 

[Horica666]

Anyone else having problems with the military traits not being available and stats remaining default?

 

[AndrewT]

Since no-one else is seeing this, and your game installation is OK by your report - I'm assuming you have the right checksum? - I'll move you to the main forum for wider comment. If you end up believing you have an installation problem still come back here again, if a bug post in Bug Reports.

 

[Panzerschiffe]

Ah yes, I remember now, those military traits like Cavalry Commander and the like. I hadn't used ruler designer in a while but it does seem like the traits are gone for me too. All that happened was the patch.

 

[Olaus Petrus]

Ah yes, I remember now, those military traits like Cavalry Commander and the like. I hadn't used ruler designer in a while but it does seem like the traits are gone for me too. All that happened was the patch.

Those are available if you have brilliant strategist education. If not, then you can't pick those.

 

[Panzerschiffe]

You're right, they appear when you pick brilliant strategist. Although weren't they available to other education types as well prior to the last patch?

 

[Horica666]

Ah so the problem isn't some sort of script error or DLC problem, it just depends upon the education I choose?

 

[Valvinar]

its WAD. You can only pick them now if you fulfill the requirements set in the regular game. IE military edu

 

[Horica666]

Well now I see what you mean by Brilliant Strategist unlocks the military traits from LoR, but what about the other ones? Like Aggressive Leader or Cavalry Leader?

And I still can't figure out the problem on the stat numbers either. Here are some screenshots to explain what I mean.



Note how in the first pic above, I choose a random selection of traits. The numbers within the parentheses have changed with the trais being added, but numbers to the left of those numbers remain unchanged (staying at the default 5). However after I have created my ruler and begin my session, they do change to value of the traits of the character...yet it doesn't show up when I am creating my Ruler. How is this happening?



Now in the second picture above, I can see the traits introduced by LoR, however, I do not have access to the ORIGINAL military traits such as Aggressive Leader, Infantry Leader, Flanker etc etc. They were available earlier that day when I started a new campaign for the King of England and the night before.

This is why I think I must have a problem with 1.08 patch or a problem that happened with the DLC. As I stated in my first post, I have verified the integrity of the game cache many times, reinstalled the game twice, even followed some suggestions involving problems with Sunset Invasion through other posts, but nothing has fixed this.

 

[Olaus Petrus]

Aggressive leader, flanker etc. are between cruel and mujahid i. e. before Muslim traits.

 

[Robin67]

Note how in the first pic above, I choose a random selection of traits. The numbers within the parentheses have changed with the trais being added, but numbers to the left of those numbers remain unchanged (staying at the default 5). However after I have created my ruler and begin my session, they do change to value of the traits of the character...yet it doesn't show up when I am creating my Ruler. How is this happening?

I think the 5 on the left is the base stat of your ruler. This is his skill before traits. You can see this value ingame to if you hover with your mouse over the stats of your ruler. It should show something like Matrial: Base=5 Briliant Strategist +8(dunno the exact value) Crusader +2 Slothful -1 etc. All of this together should then sum up to 11. The base value in the ruler designer cannot be lower than 5 but if you click on the little arrows next to the attribute in the ruler designer you can raise the base value and by this change the 5 into a 6 or a 7 etc.

 

[Olaus Petrus]

I think the 5 on the left is the base stat of your ruler. This is his skill before traits. You can see this value ingame to if you hover with your mouse over the stats of your ruler. It should show something like Matrial: Base=5 Briliant Strategist +8(dunno the exact value) Crusader +2 Slothful -1 etc. All of this together should then sum up to 11. The base value in the ruler designer cannot be lower than 5 but if you click on the little arrows next to the attribute in the ruler designer you can raise the base value and by this change the 5 into a 6 or a 7 etc.

That's correct. And brilliant strategist is +9.

 

[unmerged(494787)]

Yeah, the martial Leadership traits (ex. Cavalry Leader) don't affect stats like Martial, just their modifiers in battle. Random side note: It is possible to get Leadership traits in a non-martial education, you just need to gain them through actual battle. Ended up once with an Inspiring Leader/Holy Warrior on a character who was Midas Touched.

And yes, the Ruler Designer shows Base Stat (Modified Stat) when it comes to the effects of traits/education.

 

[Horica666]

I see what you all mean. Cause originally, the numbers would change before 1.08 and the SI DLC. So if I added a certain number of military traits both numbers would increase or decrease as I added traits.

 

[Panzerschiffe]

Yeah, the martial Leadership traits (ex. Cavalry Leader) don't affect stats like Martial, just their modifiers in battle. Random side note: It is possible to get Leadership traits in a non-martial education, you just need to gain them through actual battle. Ended up once with an Inspiring Leader/Holy Warrior on a character who was Midas Touched.

What are the requirements for these? Number of battles? Kills? Now that free general spamming was removed, you have to breed your military leaders and try to get them some useful battle traits. I try to always send my King to fight some battles so he can maybe get a leadership trait or maybe the brave trait.