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AI War Exhaustion

I created a thread in the general discussions asking if the AI cheats at war exhaustion. Turns out they have a cap of half the human limit for war exhaustion. *bangs head against desk repeatedly*

 

[Storey]

Re: What to do now??

Originally posted by boehm
dear Backpack, Storet & RaulTheRunt...

what do u think I should do now that its my turn? ...I mean Im pretty sure that if I really put my mind to it I could probably hurt atleast one of you really bad....so what are your intentions? Are u planning to all jump me again?

If your intentions are purely to hurt France...well then I probably cant please u (not willingly anyway!)...but if u have other less aggressive goals then perhaps we can come to some sort of aggrement?

claus

I think what you do during your turn will be the determining factor in what happens next. If you continue to expand you put all of us at risk especially Castile. 8^) Seeing that France is the most powerful player in the game you probably can do whatever you want to do. Possibly a France content for a while with internal affairs would clam eveyone down.

Joe

 

[Raul The Runt]

nothin's gonna clam me down! Though I might be calmed.

 

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Originally posted by Raul The Runt
nothin's gonna clam me down! Though I might be calmed.

Hey RtR...pipe down, zip it, clam up!!

 

[Storey]

The clam affair is a little know event in the history of Castile. It refers to the time in 1474 when Castile offered to pay France 250 clams for peace. France declined the offer.

Joe

 

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*Backpack keeps his mouth shut to keep this thread from moving to the OT forum* Good one Storey.

 

[boehm]

Re: AI War Exhaustion

Originally posted by Backpack
I created a thread in the general discussions asking if the AI cheats at war exhaustion. Turns out they have a cap of half the human limit for war exhaustion. *bangs head against desk repeatedly*

I could have told u that! - still I was a bit unsure of how the much good this would do...but it seemed my french AI did pretty well except ofcause that it has some obsession with using infantry instead of good old cavalry....

 

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Maybe the French and Venitian AI should switch. Venice builds all cavalry and then sends them into the mountains, forests, and swamps around us....sheesh

 

[boehm]

If u havent noticed France has finished its turn...and if I may say so, in a very peacefull mannor!

...so now its up to you gentlemen if the peacefull attitude is here to stay....

 

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Originally posted by boehm
If u havent noticed France has finished its turn...and if I may say so, in a very peacefull mannor!

...so now its up to you gentlemen if the peacefull attitude is here to stay....

Venice is all for peace. A little piece of Austria, a little piece of Turkey, a little piece of...

Nah, a truce between the four of us is a good thing...besides...that just sets the stage for a big showdown late in the game...wait a minute...that's when France gets Nappy and Spain owns most of the new world....I changed my mind...peace forever...

 

[Storey]

In a solo game I'm playing the AI is showing itself to be at least competent. I've been beating of Austria and its taken me 15 years to finally get the peace agreement I wanted. The French AI did quite well for boehm. So where all one happy family now.

Joe

 

[Raul The Runt]

Oh man, this is just getting a little to lovey-dovey for me. That it! I'm attacking all of you!

later.

 

[boehm]

Originally posted by Raul The Runt
Oh man, this is just getting a little to lovey-dovey for me. That it! I'm attacking all of you!

later.

....oh god I need to get a life and go to bed,,,its 3.30am here and I just got home drunk from my student bar...see ya later!

 

[boehm]

2 things!:

1) I guess u have noticed that my turn is saved on the 10. January ?...for some reason the autosave didnt save in 1469...it had saved fine in 1468??? anyway...nothing happened in the 10days so I hope its OK...

2) When I started my game I noticed that the settings was set to VeryHard and Aggressive....AFAIK we agreed on playing it on Hard and Normal no??

claus

 

[Raul The Runt]

Correct, Hard/Normal.

No problem on the extra 10 days - it happens. By the way - France is doing great on it's own at the moment. You should be proud.

 

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Hui Guys.

I just skimmed through this thread because I find PBEM interesting.

One Q though: I find 5 years far too long to be absent. Now that you have started, how does it work in your honest opnions?

sb

 

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Originally posted by boehm
2 things!:

1) I guess u have noticed that my turn is saved on the 10. January ?...for some reason the autosave didnt save in 1469...it had saved fine in 1468??? anyway...nothing happened in the 10days so I hope its OK...

2) When I started my game I noticed that the settings was set to VeryHard and Aggressive....AFAIK we agreed on playing it on Hard and Normal no??

claus

Hard/Normal should be the setting.

EDIT: How did I miss RtR answering this question already? *wanders off to take his vitamins (a.k.a. visits the coffee machine for his first cup)*

 

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Originally posted by Sgt. Bulldog
Hui Guys.

I just skimmed through this thread because I find PBEM interesting.

One Q though: I find 5 years far too long to be absent. Now that you have started, how does it work in your honest opnions?

sb

Actually you are absent for 15 years and only play 5 years out of every 20 for your nation. It is working okay...but...it is definately different. My initial strategy of expansion through forced vassalizing went out the window quickly. After I had force vassalized a nation, the AI broke ties with my vassal, DoW'ed the former vassal, and then annexed them. 5 years is fine to damage a mid or small sized nation. However, it is not long enough to do anything significant against a big power like France. See my last post in our AAR. You don't have time to properly build up and deploy before having to drop the DoW since you need time to conquer provinces and then negotiate the peace settlement.

Bottom line: There are difficulties but I think it is worth it. Beats the heck out of interacting only with the AI. I plan on playing another PBEM game when this one is over.

 

[boehm]

Originally posted by Backpack


Actually you are absent for 15 years and only play 5 years out of every 20 for your nation. It is working okay...but...it is definately different. My initial strategy of expansion through forced vassalizing went out the window quickly. After I had force vassalized a nation, the AI broke ties with my vassal, DoW'ed the former vassal, and then annexed them. 5 years is fine to damage a mid or small sized nation. However, it is not long enough to do anything significant against a big power like France. See my last post in our AAR. You don't have time to properly build up and deploy before having to drop the DoW since you need time to conquer provinces and then negotiate the peace settlement.

Bottom line: There are difficulties but I think it is worth it. Beats the heck out of interacting only with the AI. I plan on playing another PBEM game when this one is over.

...also its quite different compared to a "normal" single player game in the way that its much much more difficult to optimize your DP settings because in effect you can only adjust them one click in 20 years...and also 3/4 of the time it will be the AI which decide which course to take in the historical events...ofcause u can plan on it always taking the historical events...problem is just that it doesnt always do that....

Personally Im really looking forward to seeing the king of Castille decline to form Spain...thats a really nice one!!! No, fancy spanish leaders...no fancy spanich events (like hardcoded bankruptcy!)...and then a small hit to centralisation (-5)

 

[Storey]

Originally posted by boehm

Personally Im really looking forward to seeing the king of Castille decline to form Spain...thats a really nice one!!! No, fancy spanish leaders...no fancy spanich events (like hardcoded bankruptcy!)...and then a small hit to centralisation (-5)

Believe it or not I've never played Spain before. I don't focus on the exploring aspect of the game so I've never tried them before. I make it a rule to never look at the game files because I like surprises. So I really don't know if I will form Spain or even if I'll be in control when the choice is presented. About the game settings. I always play at very hard/aggressive and I 'm wondering if the game gets reset to my settings when I play my turn. I had assumed that the setting are set in the saved game file but maybe not. I'll check it out tonight and make sure it stays hard/normal. Also looking forward to doing another PBEM game. I can think of a few changes but lets talk about that later in the game when we all I'm sure will have suggestions.

Joe