A "victory condition" for Sweden should be baltic dominance,
not colonization. Other than that, it sounds fairly nice.
not colonization. Other than that, it sounds fairly nice.
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I guess my old arch enemy "The Grandmaster" has returned...
well the knights does have french and italian culture...just too bad I cant forceconvert France to the pagan belief
Me and Gezeder also had an idea.
If we wish, at the end of the game we can find "judges" to rate each country on a scale of one to ten to find the winner. This wouldn't be hard to find Or I just thought of this one - we could start a poll I am sure a mod would oblige us.
If we wish, at the end of the game we can find "judges" to rate each country on a scale of one to ten to find the winner. This wouldn't be hard to find
Or I just thought of this one - we could start a poll I am sure a mod would oblige us.
Are we going to have treaty breaking rules in place?
Something like:
Only one DOW against a player per turn? (Including player allies)
I think this would be appropriate. It's not THAT likely to happen in a five year turn game.... but... well, storey can probably attest to the need for this rule with boehm around!
(That having been said, I don't mind if we don't play with this rule, I'd just like it sorted before we start )
Gezeder
Something like:
Only one DOW against a player per turn? (Including player allies)
I think this would be appropriate. It's not THAT likely to happen in a five year turn game.... but... well, storey can probably attest to the need for this rule with boehm around!
(That having been said, I don't mind if we don't play with this rule, I'd just like it sorted before we start
)Gezeder
Originally posted by Gezeder
Are we going to have treaty breaking rules in place?
Something like:
Only one DOW against a player per turn? (Including player allies)
I think this would be appropriate. It's not THAT likely to happen in a five year turn game.... but... well, storey can probably attest to the need for this rule with boehm around!
(That having been said, I don't mind if we don't play with this rule, I'd just like it sorted before we start
Gezeder
if we did NOT play with this rule I really need to reply my turn as otherwise I could have annexed portugal...and hit france twice...
Are we playing with ai edit yes or no??
I have finished my turn and can ship it on as soon as I have all the email addresses and know if we play with ai edit or not?
Ill open an AAR tomorrow...here is a quick & dirty update:
Spain had two objectives:
1) securing its position as #1 on the iberian peninsula...hence, Granada & navarre was annexed and Portugal had to give up Oporto, Azorez & some Tps and a lonely colony.
2) Maintaining the balance of Power "cough cough" - or just plain "France is evil!"...hence, Spain did its very best to try to hurt France...France gave england 2 provinces and Spain 4 provinces...additionally Foix and that-other-land-leader-guy was killed, almost all french armies were killed, stability -3, and France is still at war with Naples and the Austrian alliance (Austria isnt really doing anything about it since its quite busy with the rest of the world)
ohh yes and Spain got 50VPs for the discovery of America!
I have finished my turn and can ship it on as soon as I have all the email addresses and know if we play with ai edit or not?
Ill open an AAR tomorrow...here is a quick & dirty update:
Spain had two objectives:
1) securing its position as #1 on the iberian peninsula...hence, Granada & navarre was annexed and Portugal had to give up Oporto, Azorez & some Tps and a lonely colony.
2) Maintaining the balance of Power "cough cough" - or just plain "France is evil!"...hence, Spain did its very best to try to hurt France...France gave england 2 provinces and Spain 4 provinces...additionally Foix and that-other-land-leader-guy was killed, almost all french armies were killed, stability -3, and France is still at war with Naples and the Austrian alliance (Austria isnt really doing anything about it since its quite busy with the rest of the world)
ohh yes and Spain got 50VPs for the discovery of America!
Well, I'd say ai edit is okay, but i'm good either way.
Can you email it to me anyway, just so i can look? i'm very impatient
Regarding details,
saryon2@hotmail.com
icq 24765674
If ppl aren't happy posting the email on the msg boards, just email me, and when i have everyone, i'll email it out to all ppl.
Gezeder
Can you email it to me anyway, just so i can look? i'm very impatient
Regarding details,
saryon2@hotmail.com
icq 24765674
If ppl aren't happy posting the email on the msg boards, just email me, and when i have everyone, i'll email it out to all ppl.
Gezeder
No I think it is pretty set - no dow on the same country twice in your turn (no breaking treaties).
Oh, I am good with editing the ai as well. Although default is usually decent with major powers anyways...
I figure, go ahead if you'd like to
I figure, go ahead if you'd like to
Well, if Spain declares war on France, And the war ends in 1496, then the treaty is valid until 1501 right? and if it's france's turn 1497-1502, then france is not allowed to break that?
and what do you say boehm? Austria is busy with the rest of the world? this does not sound good
oh yeah, my e-mail is martin@berghem.net
lol,
I said:
"Only one DOW against a player per turn? (Including player allies)"
I think this should be okay. It means you can break treteas etc all you like.... but you're only allowed one Declaration Of War per turn.
Under that rule, Treaty Breaking is fine,
I only used the phrase "Are we going to have treaty breaking rules in place? " to lead into the suggestion of a set of rules....
I assume everyone's familiar with other taboos too? Like,
- No moving through allied players territory and attacking natives to deliberatly burn an allies TP?
- No loansharking
- No DOWING small nation A, conquoring it, then claiming heaps of CB territories from large nation B
Er.....
Those are the main ones I can think of. I suspect we are all genlemen enough to play fair, but mabye someone should cut & paste rules from another aar?
Gezeder
I said:
"Only one DOW against a player per turn? (Including player allies)"
I think this should be okay. It means you can break treteas etc all you like.... but you're only allowed one Declaration Of War per turn.
Under that rule, Treaty Breaking is fine,
I only used the phrase "Are we going to have treaty breaking rules in place? " to lead into the suggestion of a set of rules....
I assume everyone's familiar with other taboos too? Like,
- No moving through allied players territory and attacking natives to deliberatly burn an allies TP?
- No loansharking
- No DOWING small nation A, conquoring it, then claiming heaps of CB territories from large nation B
Er.....
Those are the main ones I can think of. I suspect we are all genlemen enough to play fair, but mabye someone should cut & paste rules from another aar?
Gezeder
ok just send out the turnfile...including the ai file...please remember to paste the ai file into the ai folder. - wyvery I dont have your email address yet...
for anyone interested here is how u edit your aifile:
1) take an existing aifile and edit it until it feels right...then save it using some name lige eg. mine is called "boehmspain.ai"
2) go into the savegame file and find your country...edit the line:
ai = "whatever.ai"
to
ai = "somename.ai"
thats it! - the edit itself is pretty self explanatory...the usual stuff to edit is the list of "target countries", agressiveness, prefered areas of colonization, send-trader-rate, ....
for anyone interested here is how u edit your aifile:
1) take an existing aifile and edit it until it feels right...then save it using some name lige eg. mine is called "boehmspain.ai"
2) go into the savegame file and find your country...edit the line:
ai = "whatever.ai"
to
ai = "somename.ai"
thats it! - the edit itself is pretty self explanatory...the usual stuff to edit is the list of "target countries", agressiveness, prefered areas of colonization, send-trader-rate, ....
IMPORTANT:
well for me anyway....I send out the wrong aifile...plz make sure to use the second one I sends...the first one was an earlier mod.
claus
well for me anyway....I send out the wrong aifile...plz make sure to use the second one I sends...the first one was an earlier mod.
claus
I've sent a PM to boehm with my email address.
The rules and comments made so far sound good, esp. like the suggestions that if a player is knocked out he can only re-enter through another team member releasing a position as a vassal.
The rules and comments made so far sound good, esp. like the suggestions that if a player is knocked out he can only re-enter through another team member releasing a position as a vassal.
Everything looks good to me. Let the game begin! Oh, I see Boehm has already started. Good luck everyone.
Joe
Good luck everyone.Joe
what about vassalization of other player's countries? any time limit on when you can break it?
I don't think so. Are you talking about e.g. Sweden vassalizing Russia?
Russia (human) can break it as soon as they can/want.Joe
Yah I say Sweden is allowed to vassalize Russia.
Vassalization should be fine - we are playing major countries after all. Big boys can take care of themselves. And we can easily break the vassalization before we can be annexed.
Our team has agreed that Gezeder will be heading the Franco-Iberian Empire.
Vassalization should be fine - we are playing major countries after all. Big boys can take care of themselves.
And we can easily break the vassalization before we can be annexed.Our team has agreed that Gezeder will be heading the Franco-Iberian
Empire.
It has come to my attention that there is an ambiguity in our rules. In order to do away with any confusion, I say lets clear it up now.
Are we not allowed to break a treaty made with a human player?
Or
Are we not allowed to dow the same country twice in one turn?
I mistakenly thought they were the same, but realized, no they are not.
Spillover wars will mean that if Austria is playing her turn, and leaves at war with the Ottomans, and the Ottomans make peace, then under 1 she can NOT declare war. Under 2 she can.
So which is it?
I assumed 1, but others may have assumed 2. Just to clear it up. Since it wouldn't of affected Boehm anyways (he being the first player), it shouldn't matter all too much. Although Gezeder can't dow Austria if we are playing with #1, since they would have to make a treaty during his turn for him to do so.
Are we not allowed to break a treaty made with a human player?
Or
Are we not allowed to dow the same country twice in one turn?
I mistakenly thought they were the same, but realized, no they are not.
Spillover wars will mean that if Austria is playing her turn, and leaves at war with the Ottomans, and the Ottomans make peace, then under 1 she can NOT declare war. Under 2 she can.
So which is it?
I assumed 1, but others may have assumed 2. Just to clear it up. Since it wouldn't of affected Boehm anyways (he being the first player), it shouldn't matter all too much. Although Gezeder can't dow Austria if we are playing with #1, since they would have to make a treaty during his turn for him to do so.