Patriarch of Anatolia/Serbia/yadayada

[Gunnarr]

This is ridiculous. Why does the Vassal-Kingdom of Anatolia have an Autocephelous Patriarchate? This makes no sense! Also for Serbia, it was traditionally under the jurisdiction of Rome but was changed to Constantinople, why would it have its own patriarch as as vassal kingdom?!?!?!

Can someone please direct me to where in the code can I make it so they go to their correct Patriarchates (mostly I am angry about Anatolia)

 

[VersusAllOdds]

I can speak from the point of Serbia, which had autocephalous church since 1219, however, only on the level of Arhiepiskop = Archbishop.

Although, you are right, it's stupid to be autocephalous as a vassal.

 

[aprogressivist]

The code merely assigns the Chaplain of each Orthodox Kingdom-level ruler as an autocephalous Bishop. If you don't want to see these, one way is not to create the Kingdoms...

 

[Gunnarr]

The code merely assigns the Chaplain of each Orthodox Kingdom-level ruler as an autocephalous Bishop. If you don't want to see these, one way is not to create the Kingdoms...

no no no

I want the Kingdom of Anatolia to work like the Kingdom of Sicily does.

The Kingdom of Sicily is put under the juristiction of the Patriarchate of Rome, so they do not get an autocephelous patriartchate.

I want to make it so it does this for my vassal kingdom of Anatolia, except under the juristiction of Constantinople (Ecumenical Patriarchate)

 

[VersusAllOdds]

But Serbia and Anatolia were both under the jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate... Don't really understand where you wanna go, tbh.

 

[Gunnarr]

But Serbia and Anatolia were both under the jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate... Don't really understand where you wanna go, tbh.

Yes that is correct

I am playing as the Byzantine Empire, and I created the Kingdom of Anatolia. But on the religion screen, Anatolia has its own autocephelous patriarch, despite being a vassal kingdom of the empire and under the juristiction of Constantinople

 

[jordarkelf]

All kingdoms that do not have a specific patriarch set, thus fall under the Ecumenical Patriarch, get an autocephalous patriarch. Alas we can't force-assign the Ecum.P. to kingdoms like we can Rome, Jerusalem etc..

 

[Gunnarr]

Alas we can't force-assign the Ecum.P. to kingdoms like we can Rome, Jerusalem etc..

This is what i am talking about. well now i know there is no way to fix it

aiodghoaisdhfoiashoi

i cannot stand it, i cant even play it is just so historically inaccurate it is complete and utter nonsense

Anatolia should not have an autocephelous patriarch WHEN THE PATRIARCH OF CONSTANTINOPLE HAS JURISDICTION!!! it is VASSAL KINGDOM!!!!!!!

i cannot even finish my byzantine game it is just so damn annoying

 

[Ols]

The Kingdom of Anatolia never existed. The fact that it exists in your game means that it has been severed from the normal dynamic of the Byzantine Empire and therefore enjoys autonomy. Such a thing does give precedent for it to be autocephalous, so I don't see why you're complaining. The Patriarch of Constantinople is the Ecunemical Patriarch and has jurisdiction over Autocephalous Patriarchs regardless, they're simply managing affairs for their region and adapting Orthodoxy for their own people. If you give Anatolia a Despot it stands to reason that he wont want his lands to be treated as if he was a Doux.

 

[Bad_Haggis]

Besides there never were any Vassal Depots in the ERE in real life.

 

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The problem is that even if you mod it and add the ecumenical patriarch as the head of any kingdom, it still doesn't work.
It's been discussed at length in this thread,with a lot of experiments but no luck ;(
Although I recently found in CK2's changelogs this:

- The Ecumenical Patriarch is now properly the Orthodox head of religion in Greece and Anatolia.

But I have no idea if it really is fixed or how they've done it, perhaps someone could enlighten us?