Patriarch Authority events (and I think pious evnets) rarely happen now?

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Well, yes, but then again, you forget to add up all the positive events you get by selecting to lower PA: Prestige, money, stability. But that's me. I always go for Religion and as for manpower I usually play Russia, so manpower is not an issue.

How can you honestly say that though in a positive light? it's what gain 25 prestige (not even) in an event that fires every 30 years?
 

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They were intentionally made less common but I agree they're too rare now. Will be tweaked (though not back to the old level).
 

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They were intentionally made less common but I agree they're too rare now. Will be tweaked (though not back to the old level).

Not good enough, they need to be on their own level. Orthodox is a religion that gets no bonuses when it's at 0% and negative events when you get the events to raise PA it needs to be restored to its old level at the very least.
 

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Orthodox is maybe the best christian religion, mostly because of religious cb but it is always good to have, catholic may not give you anything at all and the reformed religions come later, are worse diplomatically and a ortho with high partical is probably better.
 

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Hindu events seem especially rare as well; I've only had around three in 200 years of game time.
I am on the other hand almost always get one per ruler...
Only few (six or eight) of my ruler (I am in late 1700 now) never get the events...
 

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I never understood why would you want to have high piety or PA with any country? For both, its seems like having them at 0 is much better, especially since even the events to raise them/lower them favor you going to 0. The only scenario I see PA/piety useful is when you decided not to go religious
 

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I never understood why would you want to have high piety or PA with any country? For both, its seems like having them at 0 is much better, especially since even the events to raise them/lower them favor you going to 0. The only scenario I see PA/piety useful is when you decided not to go religious

I agree about piety, since negative piety gives better bonuses (if you have religious or otherwise don't need conversion strength), but low patriarch authority doesn't give you anything and high only costs money. The only real reason to stay low PA is the bonuses from events, whether or not you have religious ideas.
 

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I agree about piety, since negative piety gives better bonuses (if you have religious or otherwise don't need conversion strength), but low patriarch authority doesn't give you anything and high only costs money. The only real reason to stay low PA is the bonuses from events, whether or not you have religious ideas.

I'd say PA and piety are very different things.

Piety is easily changed (with steps of 25%, and you can change it with DoWs) and easily reset (whenever you change a ruler), so it's more a short-term thing. You plan to grab some Christian land in a few years? Go piety, enjoy the better troops and missionary strength. It's something you only need to plan for 20 or 40 years.

On the other hand PA requires hundreds of years to build up. Whether going for high PA is a game-long strategic choice.
 

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I'd say PA and piety are very different things.

Piety is easily changed (with steps of 25%, and you can change it with DoWs) and easily reset (whenever you change a ruler), so it's more a short-term thing. You plan to grab some Christian land in a few years? Go piety, enjoy the better troops and missionary strength. It's something you only need to plan for 20 or 40 years.

On the other hand PA requires hundreds of years to build up. Whether going for high PA is a game-long strategic choice.

Very true, and I'd hate to see that change.