Patriarch Authority events (and I think pious evnets) rarely happen now?

[Hamor]

Seriously? you make it so Muscovy can have no accepted cultures due to all the sub divisions and 90 years has passed in my game ( I have full religious) and my PA is only 15 percent? wtf?
These PA events happened much more often in 1.7. They need to be more often in 1.8, or introduce alternative ways to increase PA rather than just through events which never happen.

If I can get bonus's having 0 piety and get none having 0 PA then there's something wrong.
If It takes me 10 years to get to 100 piety but 400 years to get to 100 PA then somethings wrong.

It's a no brainer PI fix you're broken orthodox religion

 

[Zqrfmb]

Piety events are still roughly once per year, but those have always had a higher occurrence rate than PA events for some reason.

 

[Hydronum]

There are alternate ways of increasing PA. There are some missions that allow you to increase it by 20 or so, like converting all the Christian holy centres to Orthodox. The events that fire now also have a positive and negative associated to them. I only got my PA to 100 as Byzantine at about 1700. It takes longer, but you can do it.

 

[Schmoekoeksklok]

That sounds about right. There's a three-year pulse for these events (and a bunch of others, for Muslims and certain governments), which selects one at random. Each of the five PA events have 10 weight to them, and then there's a chance of nothing happening on the pulse with a weight of 300. So 350 total weight, out of which 50 gets you a useful event, meaning about seven cycles or 21 years per event on average.

That does mean that getting it all the way up to 100 can be 'challenging' since it would take 420 years on average and you only get about 380. With no way at all to raise authority aside from those events, I do believe that they scaled back the frequency too far. It would probably be better with a weight of 20/25 as then you could actually reach max authority before the game is over, yet you wouldn't constantly pick up free stability or the likes.

 

[Karabas1543]

Yes, I feel piety events are more rare now. I almost always play with -100% piety as Sunni for the tech bonus and I've found it more difficult to bring it down after monarch changes.

 

[Schmoekoeksklok]

Piety events are still roughly once per year, but those have always had a higher occurrence rate than PA events for some reason.

They shouldn't occur more then once every three years, as they're on the same thri-yearly (is that even a word?) pulse. Anyway, the muslims have 16 events with 100 weight each, so they massively drown out the 300 weight chance of nothing happening on the pulse.

 

[ahyangyi]

That said, I experienced quite a few PA events so far in my Yaroslavl game. And since I always choose the -PA option, they are all positives.

 

[Hamor]

That sounds about right. There's a three-year pulse for these events (and a bunch of others, for Muslims and certain governments), which selects one at random. Each of the five PA events have 10 weight to them, and then there's a chance of nothing happening on the pulse with a weight of 300. So 350 total weight, out of which 50 gets you a useful event, meaning about seven cycles or 21 years per event on average.

That does mean that getting it all the way up to 100 can be 'challenging' since it would take 420 years on average and you only get about 380. With no way at all to raise authority aside from those events, I do believe that they scaled back the frequency too far. It would probably be better with a weight of 20/25 as then you could actually reach max authority before the game is over, yet you wouldn't constantly pick up free stability or the likes.

420 years.... lol, that's a fucking ridiculous amount of time.

 

[Roelath]

I remember reading a post about this the previous week... felt the same way in my Ottos game. Did a restart and it's ~1550 I'm already 70% PA compared to my 25% back in my 1600s game.

 

[andristan]

i've played till the 1560s as circassia and had two patriarch events, it is getting quite difficult to convert the muslims without patriarch authority

 

[Hamor]

i've played till the 1560s as circassia and had two patriarch events, it is getting quite difficult to convert the muslims without patriarch authority

Amen, its just frustrating having to wait that long. I remember reaching 90-100% PA within 100 years of the game now it takes four times as long? ridiculous

 

[andristan]

exactly, i remember even turning down half the events and still having 65% by the 1550s

 

[Hamor]

So just played as Ottomans 1.8 and had 100% piety within the first 10 years of the game, why is it that PA takes like 400 years to max? this is completely ridiculous and PA needs a huge buff to be on par with piety.

 

[anomalacaris]

Yeah it's much much rarer.

 

[uishax]

Considering PA is nearly a pure bonus, a nerf to their frequency is a nerf to orthodox.
Why is islam never nerfed?

 

[Kyoumen]

Considering PA is nearly a pure bonus, a nerf to their frequency is a nerf to orthodox.
Why is islam never nerfed?

It doesn't need nerfing. It's not like Islamic countries overperform against Christian Europe (including Russia) in the vast majority of games.

 

[panionios]

Actually, I think they appear more often now. At least in my games. And I always stay at 0 PA, so for me it's great getting these events (money, stab, prestige).

 

[Hamor]

This ruins the game playing as orthodox nations, where you need the PA to keep Missionary strength high and unrest low. Not happy at all, will keep bumping this thread till Wiz or someone replies

 

[StatikShocker]

I can't fathom why anyone would want to stay at zero. 100 or nothing.

 

[DicRoNero]

At least PA events are now 2-fold: you can pick inflation reduction or free stab instead of 5 PA points (which I always do).