Patch 2.4 Changelog

[toroltao]

Looking good .

As I asked elsewhere- how will the Mongol Empire's breakup be handled?

It probably won't...

 

[Finnway]

- Siege assault battles now use the Melee combat values on the troops instead of the Skirmish combat values.

What's the logic of this, might I ask? After all the other skirmish nerfs this seems pretty severe. Why would anyone want skrimish troops now? They're weaker, and no longer the best troops for sieges. Now Heavy Cavalry are the best siege troop in the game =\

It probably won't...

Lulz. In that case the next DLC had BETTER add in empire management mechanics, or this game is going to be broken for a while.

 

[TL_]

- Failed rebels (population uprisings and adventurers) now lose all their money when the war ends

What a disaster! I always relied on that sweet, sweet adventurer banishment cash.

 

[Finnway]

What a disaster! I always relied on that sweet, sweet adventurer banishment cash.

No kidding. I can no longer let a rebelion go for a few years just so I get a nice fat pay-check at the end.

 

[Tufto]

It probably won't...

Surely they'd have put something in for that, or we'll get a vast, unstoppable empire crushing everything come the 13th century...

 

[toroltao]

Surely they'd have put something in for that, or we'll get a vast, unstoppable empire crushing everything come the 13th century...

Well historically speaking that's pretty much what happened.

 

[grisamentum]

YES! The faqih fix I have been complaining about for months is in!!

 

[Rationalsanity]

Surely they'd have put something in for that, or we'll get a vast, unstoppable empire crushing everything come the 13th century...

See also: The Abbasids, the HRE and the Fatimids, depending on your chosen start.

 

[Tufto]

Well historically speaking that's pretty much what happened.

And then it wasn't. Which is the point; unless you want the world turned white, this is going to be something of a problem.

 

[Ephafn]

- Light Cavalry - Skirmish Attack reduced to 2 (down from 2.5).
- Archer - Maintenance increased to 2 (up from 1).
- Archer - Skirmish Attack reduced to 2 (down from 5).
- Archer - Skirmish Defense reduced to 1 (down from 3).

While I'm happy about the Archer nerf, isn't that too much? With those the Archer is going to strictly worse than the Light Cavalry during the Skirmish phase (same attack, same maintenance, worse defense).

 

[Rationalsanity]

Also, no Flanders fix yet. The struggle continues.

 

[Carmilla]

And then it wasn't. Which is the point; unless you want the world turned white, this is going to be something of a problem.

We'll have to see how easily clans break away when they aren't kept satisfied once horse lords has been launched.

 

[Nyrael]

Looking good .

As I asked elsewhere- how will the Mongol Empire's breakup be handled?

From what I understood through Dev diaries, Nomads don't have loyal subjects and one of "vassal clans" can just decide to go independent either because he decides that he dislikes his liege or because the liege made a demand he decided to not accept. And even if the liege beats up the vassal, that vassal might just take their things and migrate somewhere else.

As time goes on, the clan populations will grow so the liege will have to split them creating more and more clans that might decide to rebel... and if a big clan rejects to split, this will probably cause a schism.

 

[wakko2k]

- Rebalanced troop stats:
- Light Infantry - Skirmish Attack reduced to 1 (down from 2).
- Light Infantry - Skirmish Defense reduced to 2 (down from 2.5).
- Light Infantry - Melee Attack reduced to 1 (down from 3).
- Light Infantry - Pursue Attack reduced to 2 (down from 3).
- Light Infantry - Pursue Defense reduced to 2 (down from 3).

Why the light infantry nerf? Rip Pagans ;(

 

[Baron1807]

Finally the correct latin names for the popes!!!

 

[ZeRedleg]

This update will be a good one!

 

[klopkr]

- Blocked impregnation by female lovers or modded female 'husbands'
- The lustful cabin can no longer cause multiple pregnancies or create children between two female lovers

 

[Kumicho]

While I'm happy about the Archer nerf, isn't that too much? With those the Archer is going to strictly worse than the Light Cavalry during the Skirmish phase (same attack, same maintenance, worse defense).

They're still *slightly* cheaper than LC (2 vs 3 in maintenance), but otherwise you're correct.

The more I think about this, the more baffled I am. If PDX thought that LI (and Archers) were too powerful in retinues, they could have just increased their maintenance, which would have made their retinues more expensive (per cap), BUT more importantly left the Pagans alone.

 

[Kumicho]

Btw, looks like the ultimate unit in sieging is now.... (drumroll please) PIKEMEN! Those Scots/Italians are going to be the ones ripping through castles in no time instead of the dastardly English.

 

[killerbee256]

"- Discovering two vassals of the same sex engaging in carnal activities during pagan feasts no longer let's the liege join in on the fun."
I didn't even know this was possible, seems like it would be hilarious!