Kingdom of Lithuania existed from 1251 to 1263. It was downgraded to Grand Duchy then, but it CK2 Grand Duchy would still be a Kingdom-tier title.
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It's also a duchy in game, pommerania and pommeralia. Both part of a kingdom that's named one of those (can never remember which one). I've always wondered of there's a reason for there being a fruit with the name name to. tTen again I've never seen that name for that region outside of CK2 most people use pommern and hinterpommern.
Are you sure about the last piece the grand princes of muscovy and novgorod are both dukes. As for it being a kingdom at one point I'll take your word for it. Still think it's odd that of that kingdom is formed by non lithuanians that it's called lithuania. Should be called latvia (or something) if formed by letgallians and Pruthenia if formed by Prussians.
It's just a name that means "near the sea" in Latin. "Pommern" is the same in German. "Pomorze" in Polish.
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Oh mare, I never made that connection. So what about the fruit? Did that also grow near the sea?
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No that's not the one we're talking about. the one we mean is a citrus fruit. It's apperantly called Bitter orange in english. But it's pommerans in swedish (note that's the noun), and probably some more languages.
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It's "pomarańcza" in Polish. I guess it also has something to do with a sea, Mediterranean Sea to be precise
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It seems the fruit is from india though.It's "pomarańcza" in Polish. I guess it also has something to do with a sea, Mediterranean Sea to be precise
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And potatoes are from America
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Slavic, not Latin. "Po more" still should mean "near the sea" in Russian, if my scarce knowledge of the language doesn't betray me.
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Don't know where Po comes from but it's in swedish too På means at. It's probably indoeuropean in general (germanic latin and slavic languages all are) Never seen it in latin though. Same thing with mare/meer and so on, no idea if it's a really old word that we all have or if it's one tat has spread from one of us.
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The Latin version of "po" is "apud", which - while still recognizable - is adulterated enough to make me think it isn't the origin of the word.
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You are right. Pomerania is a latin version of slavic word.
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According to an online Proto Indo-European dictionary, mari is Proto Indo-European for sea.
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You still need de jure kingdoms so not to break the game. Certain cbs, for example, require de jure kingdoms for them to work. That said, I would love multiple non fordable "kingdoms" that were based solely on geographic features.
They're adding regions in 2.4. That's one small step towards phasing out de jure IMO.
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True. I wonder if it is possible to mod a cb to target a region, instead of a de jure duchy/kingdom. The problem is that regions come in all sizes and overlap each other, so unless we can rank them also, it wouldn't work properly.
Well with regions and the ability to create custom kingdoms and empires the need for every country to have a dejure duchy kingdom and empire is fading away.
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I agree with removing non-historical (at least within this era) de jure empires (I'm not as convinced about kingdoms). However, I'd still like to see certain historical empires that were outside of the time frame to be formed by decision. For example, if you're English culture and you own all of the British Isles, you should be able to form the British Empire; Spanish Empire if you're any of the Iberian cultures and own all of Iberia; and so forth. You can still form custom empires if you have the Charlemagne DLC but, if you have this option regardless.
The effect is largely the same except for places that aren't going to have de jure empires but, the cost to form by decision is going to be much higher (same as forming a custom empire). That way, you'll see less fantasy AI empires forming and if the AI decides to form a custom empire, at least it'll be based on an existing kingdom rather something completely made up like the Empire of Turkestan or the Wendish Empire.
The effect is largely the same except for places that aren't going to have de jure empires but, the cost to form by decision is going to be much higher (same as forming a custom empire). That way, you'll see less fantasy AI empires forming and if the AI decides to form a custom empire, at least it'll be based on an existing kingdom rather something completely made up like the Empire of Turkestan or the Wendish Empire.