Patch 1.2: Plans & in the Works [not the hotfix]

[unmerged(148481)]

autosliders would be nice but im getting more irritated on the fact that if you pause the game then click on a unit in the outliner it resumes the game, it is driving me nuts :/

Signed. That's really annoying.
I'm also fine with manual sliders, because im used to it from HOI2. The problem is that HOI3 always resets my settings at the next day, and i have to double check them every frickin time. That's not funny.

 

[Simon3101]

I haven't seen the CG bug yet, but I'm guessing I will sometime soon.. Here are the problems I have seen however:

1) The biggest problem, which is a serious problem, is that the game desyncs after 5-30 minutes of playing (4-40 days or so ingame would be my guess). This is possibly releated to game performance since it appears to happen more frequently when playing in higher speeds (3+), but it also happens in lower speeds. Perhaps it should be noted that both of us played as Germany and used manual control of everything (the controlled tech and intelligence, I controlled production and most diplomatic actions).

2) Also, try loading a game in the multiplayer screen (the screen where you select which country to play), then have someone join your game. For me and a friend this had the effect of resetting my date to 1 jan 36, while he got the right date. The game desynced the second it started, but I could continue. While the date was wrong, the game was loaded, so I was back in 36 with all my techs, installments and produced stuff.

3) When two (or more?) players play as the same country, in my case Germany, only one gets events/decisions and those round alerts/messages/whatever in the top of the screen. This makes alot of sense really, but it would be great if the host/first player could select who should recieve them, or if everyone could recieve them but only one make the decisions or something.

4) Possibly releated to multiplayer somehow, sliders (production and leadership) tend to jump back to where they were if you make a change and don't save (close the dialog) immediately. VERY annoying. This is not the same as (5) as we don't use the same interfaces at the same time when this happens.

5) Also on sliders in multiplayer, as changes are saved/updated on close, two people cannot access the same interface at the same time while playing as the same country. For example, if both me and him open the technology screen, he makes a change and exit, then I exit, his changes will be lost I think. Either that, or if he makes a change, then I exit, his changes will revert before his eyes. At the moment we simply don't use the same screens at the same time, which sucks since we can't agree on which techs to research or units to produce and so on.

Perhaps (4) happens when someone closes an interface, even if it's not the same. Are the production sliders saved (sent over network) when the technology window is closed?

(Also annoying is the wasted IC warning which is completely useless at the moment. I don't want to use the AI sliders, I want to manage these myself, and I really don't care if I waste 0.02 IC on supplies)

Yes, I certify; their are the same problems, when we are playing via LAN.

 

[userstupid]

But i think it should be noted that all the small warnings in the top left are only for the good.

I can't imagine that they bother to much

 

[jacek2015]

I want to commit:

- you can't buy production license for unit types that you can produce by self, even when the other country has them much more advanced,

- you can't detach combat/support brigades from HQ's (as they are in one division),

- you can't take back your spies from one country to count them as "Free Spies" so then the AI will send them to other countries (according to the send spy priorities),

- you can't make instant re-elections (early elections),

- you can't sell or buy instantly goods as "one transport" as in HoI2 - this could take some time (e.g. 100 units of goods per day per 10 transport ships or according to land supply routes),

- you can't bargain in selling/buying goods in a trade agreements - this would affect the likelihood of success (unlikely, maybe, likely etc.),

- you can't instant change relations with other country by selling (as a trade agreement or "one transport") them goods for 0 money or giving money for nothing,

- you can't resign from alliance with three main fractions (Allies, Axis and Comintern) and start to allign to other fraction or head to military alliance whit other
(neutral) nations,

- you can't sell/buy technology to/from other countries - buying technology would give you e.g. -50% to researching time.

 

[unmerged(12303)]

I wont comment on all as most? of them are WAD's IMO though they would be usefull.
I just wanted to touch on this as its a typial UI error

- you can't detach combat/support brigades from HQ's (as they are in one division),

You can - but what you need to do is REMOVE the leader in charge then you can swap as you wish. Really irritiating UI feature. Basically if there is a leader in cahrge of the unit you need to remove him to be able to reorg the stack. Its a HUGE pain when you have 100 brigades - its a NIGHTMARE when you have 600.....
Currently after playing the game for 2 days flat the UI is my first concern. There are many things that hinder the game play - from the above up to the single fact that when you are building a unit you cannot see whats it made up off in the production screen (no float when you hover over it) - its ok when you have 2-3 units - but when you will have 10+ it will be chaotic - not to mention that in the redeploy window you also cannot see what brigades the unit consists off - thus its hard at times to remember where you wanted to place the unit....

 

[Wulf145]

Suggestions Events/Decision consequences:

Foreign Support in Spanish Civil War

In HOI2 if you support the winning side you got a couple of 'Blue Prints' as a reward. IN HOI3 you get nothing that I could assertain.
I would like to propse that you get a +3 on Land Combat Experience and +3 Air Combat experience to reflect the combat experience the returning Vetrans brought with them.

Anschluss

Historyicaly and in HOI2 the Austrian Army was integrated into the Wehrmacht, in HOI3 it just disapears. You don't even get increased Manpower - I would like the units which Austria has built up to this point to be intrgrated into the German Army upon Anschluss.

End of Chechoslovakia

I propose that Germany gets a +2 in Motorised Practical & Thoeretical value and +1 Armour Practical & Theoretical value.


The game is a radical leap in complexity from HOI2, but in a good way . I like the way the AI takes its job seriously both the enemies and your own.

 

[unmerged(2620)]

Heck, I was playing Republican Spain last night and I don't know what the events did for me (if anything) even though the UK gave her support to me (apparently).

 

[Wulf145]

Heck, I was playing Republican Spain last night and I don't know what the events did for me (if anything) even though the UK gave her support to me (apparently).

In HOI2 you got units didn't you? I assumed that you would get something like a Tac Squadron and the Legion Condor (mixed Lt Panzer & Mot. Inf) something similar for the Republican side Tac air & a Tank division from the USSR, a 2 brigade Inf from England & France each.

I just saw it from the 'German' persepective since you just don't get anything, if you do then they should make a pop-up telling you since I didn't notice anything.

 

[EBroegger]

The only thing I would want them to improve is the performance, so that I can play a month in less than 15 minutes. Right now the game is so slow and laggy on my computer that it's nearly unplayable for me.

 

[Aemilius XXIII]

please make the AI an even higher priority than the automated sliders and everything else on your list. it is going nuts in the 1936 scenario right now. things like finland invading albania und mexico invading germany happen in almost all of the games and completely ruin the world war 2 feeling.

The same is occured with EU3. I believe that these are resolute sales tricks. There are also serious map issues that Paradox do not clear in the Vanilla version. I had arguments with them regarding the very bad created Dutch vanilla map I am afraid that we need to buy one or two game expansions before we have received the complete HoI3 game version to play more realistic WW2 games.

 

[unmerged(148443)]

The same is occured with EU3. I believe that these are resolute sales tricks. There are also serious map issues that Paradox do not clear in the Vanilla version. I had arguments with them regarding the very bad created Dutch vanilla map I am afraid that we need to buy one or two game expansions before we have received the complete HoI3 game version to play more realistic WW2 games.

Jeezus,have you even READ this forums?
Paradox already officially (as these forums go) stated whole thread that MAP REMAKE IS ON PLAN, but it is gonna be long time beacuse it involves MAJOR remaking in many areas of game, so there are far more urgent priorities for now.So maybe instead of writing posts with ill-hidden nasty accusations (I believe that these are resolute sales tricks) , maybe first check what has already been written, asked and/or answered?
No wonder people can't find their way around here when everything is at least 1000 times repeated (of course its hyperbolic)

 

[Tharkun]

To me the two main problems are game speed and the UI. There isn't a single gamebreaking issue with UI, but many small, irritating things that hinder ease of play.

- When many units are stacked together in a province and I select all of them, I can't select just two of them and merge them. I have to move only the units I want to merge in a different province. It seems like shift-selecting specific units in a big stack isn't working. Has anyone else experienced this?

-the production que. Not much information is given on the units you are building.

- again in production, when you select the number of units you want to build (serial or parallel), you have to click x times, instead of just once. Also, this number will be there when you close the window and come back later to build another units of any type.

- the pause/unpause bug

- the CG bug (which I haven't seen yet)

- theater creation/management

- Of course the biggest issue for me is game speed. After 1937-38 the game starts to crawl and basically it becomes unplayable. I have not reached war time yet because of this.

 

[Schwarzie]

Hi PI team,

2) It would be also nice, if the game would memorize the last sorting command, e.g. if I sorted the list by skill, the next time I open the list it should still be sorted by skill etc.

+1

4) Add a button to the diplomacy screen which switches to the intelligence screen for the currently selected country.

+1

5) After finishing a technology the "Goto" button in the pop-up window should not just open the technology screen, but open the specific research overview which the finished technology belongs to.

+1

Even if all of this are minor problems nd seem "luxury" compared to the oter problems

- you can't bargain in selling/buying goods in a trade agreements - this would affect the likelihood of success (unlikely, maybe, likely etc.),

- you can't instant change relations with other country by selling (as a trade agreement or "one transport") them goods for 0 money or giving money for nothing,

- you can't sell/buy technology to/from other countries - buying technology would give you e.g. -50% to researching time.

+1

I really would like to help my allied nations. Japanese is in dire need of help so i send them a whole armygroup of Infanterie and tanks. I landed near busan, took the harbor and some provinces there and now im stuck since Japan does´t supply my troops, and since my troops are on japanese territories my own supplyships won´t drivere, lazy buggers they are.

It would incredibly helpful if i could give Japan supplies.

But no, they may only buy, and since they don´t have money they can´t. And it seems the AI is to stupid to ask for a dept (i can´t give it to them, they must ask for it). and i would happyly send my supplies to japan, since after annexing(!) of Poland, Czech, France and Ungarn i have enough factories to produce for both of us...

and helping them in their research (like it did happen in reality) would be a huge boon, too.

 

[unmerged(12303)]

Jeezus,have you even READ this forums?
Paradox already officially (as these forums go) stated whole thread that MAP REMAKE IS ON PLAN, but it is gonna be long time beacuse it involves MAJOR remaking in many areas of game,(.....)

link to source?

 

[Vulture]

I don't think that was in any thread. OTOH OHGamer is working on a user mod that will change the map.

 

[unmerged(12303)]

I don't think that was in any thread. OTOH OHGamer is working on a user mod that will change the map.

you mean: Clio's Iron Heart - A Map Mod for Hearts of Iron 3?
Fine and dandy but is it possible to change the fact that provinces cant be easily distinquished - ie they are all dirty green?

 

[Wulf145]

I don't know wether it's been mentioned before but I would like to have the localised OBB names back e.g. instead of "1st HQ Unit" have it automaticaly naming itself "XIX. Armeekorps" (Germany) and "19th Corps" (England/USA).

 

[dronez]

I havent even started to play to game because I want to wait after the major game-breaking bug/bugs have been fixed. Please do something I want to play Do we get the hotfix for CG bug today or do we need to wait longer?

 

[Speedy]

link to source?

Yeah I would like a link to the source of this too as this is the first I have heard that paradox are going to fix the map.

 

[unmerged(148443)]

I don't think that was in any thread. OTOH OHGamer is working on a user mod that will change the map.

hmm, well, maybe my English is not that good as most native speakers, but i think this was pretty clearly implying it:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417025

especially this bit:
"...That is why no map change requests, ... , will be considered at this stage."


Of course, this in my dev bus. exp. means that there is no cost-effective solution for that yet, but will be re-considered later.
I know that practically that means it is left in hands of modders for long time, possibly ever.
But he also stated real & rational reasons whyt its just like that, IMNSHO.
In any case, makes ANY map related complaints irrelevant/irritating out of MOD section, i thought.