Patch 1.19 small map updates

[Bics93]

Probably why they eventually sold it, and Nice, to France.

Savoy and Nice were ceded to France in the 1859-1860 to have help against the Austro-Hungarian Empire in the Second Indipendence War, while the French Emperor wanted to limit the expansion of the Kingdom of Sardinia...

 

[Milan23]

Probably why they eventually sold it, and Nice, to France.

Nice was ceded to France as per the provisions of the Treaty of Turin (1860) after the French helped Sardinia-Piedmont in the second independence war against Austria, where they unified with Lombardy.

 

[NorthernXY]

Savoy and Nice were ceded to France in the 1859-1860 to have help against the Austro-Hungarian Empire in the Second Indipendence War, while the French Emperor wanted to limit the expansion of the Kingdom of Sardinia...

Nice was ceded to France as per the provisions of the Treaty of Turin (1860) after the French helped Sardinia-Piedmont in the second independence war against Austria, where they unified with Lombardy.

Didn't say what France payed for them with, which was blood and iron.

 

[Metz]

Here are the event chains I talked about on the last page:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hyw-wotr-lopw-event-chains-important.980665/

It would be nice to get some support/opinions/suggestions to improve the French and Burgundy experience for players in the early game.

 

[Demetrios]

Well, more the natives (who tended to get upset about settlers setting up shop on their hunting lands), the isolation (starvation was a real problem when you have few neighbors to rely on, especially since it was the tail-end of the Little Ice Age), the land quality (the Appalachians themselves are basically hills, which limits how much farming you can do; there's a reason plantation agriculture never took off in Appalachia, unlike much of the rest of the South on either side of the mountains, and past it you had fairly dense forests that had to be cleared), and transportation (the mountains mean you have to deal with waterfalls, which make it a pain to ship things by water, and shipping by land is always going to be slower and more expensive before the invention of the railroad). All that can be reflected by the land being poorer, not impassible.

Armies did cross the mountains, after all: Braddock's expedition and later expeditions against Fort Duquesne, along with the various other conflicts in the Ohio Valley all involved armies from the East Coast crossing the mountains to launch an offensive (and note that, getting back to the dense forests aspect, the route that Braddock cleared later became a major federal road, and later an interstate highway). By the time of the Civil War, you see multiple campaigns fought in the Appalachians (for example, the Western Virginia Campaign, which saw an army from Ohio fight an army from Virginia over control of what would become West Virginia).

The Rockies (much taller and more dangerous) clearly were a barrier, but they are mostly wasteland already.

The Appalachians are impassable in spots, but they are such an old mountain range that there are plenty of usable passes just about everywhere you look. I could see a few areas of wasteland, such as around the Smokies, which contain some of the highest mountains of the chain and was generally impassable until the discovery of Newfound Gap after the game's time frame.

 

[Metz]

The Appalachians are impassable in spots, but they are such an old mountain range that there are plenty of usable passes just about everywhere you look. I could see a few areas of wasteland, such as around the Smokies, which contain some of the highest mountains of the chain and was generally impassable until the discovery of Newfound Gap after the game's time frame.

We would have to examine what passes were created after the game's timeframe thanks to modern engineering and machinery.

 

[Dafuka72]

Gross. I don't like how Savoie is split from Piedmont. If the Swiss take back Vaud and Wallis then Savoy is going to be in for a bad time.

Agree. In fact, this split is completely stupid and illogical as the normal (and easiest) way to go to piedmont from France is trough Savoy(the province). It's also by this way Savoy expanded in Italy.

 

[Turboflex]

I'm confused. Is this patch released? Do I have to start a new Ironman game then? Or how much time do I have to finish my old one before this comes out?

 

[Dakka]

I'm confused. Is this patch released? Do I have to start a new Ironman game then? Or how much time do I have to finish my old one before this comes out?

The patch won't be fully released until the end of this month. Right now it is open for beta (I believe, may be mistaken).
When it is released it will break your ironman and other saves because of the addition of more tags and provinces.

 

[Philadelphus]

I'm confused. Is this patch released? Do I have to start a new Ironman game then? Or how much time do I have to finish my old one before this comes out?

Yout can always choose to stay on a particular patch as long as you need in order to finish a game, too.