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It is, but it might not be pretty: you can load your old save games, but the new provinces (Aprutium and the Mali region) will not have any holders (they will be gray and impassable). There will likely be a month or two of event chains misfiring, etc. Not to mention any potential balance upsets.

Not pretty but works ... sounds fair enough.
 

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Doomdark, has the bug where the game forgets your appointed successors to bishoprics upon exit/load been fixed? Sorry to ask again but my post got lost in the flood of new posts.
 

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Doomdark, has the bug where the game forgets your appointed successors to bishoprics upon exit/load been fixed? Sorry to ask again but my post got lost in the flood of new posts.

I just tested it and it works, so I'm not sure, but if the bug is there, it does not always occur.
 

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Doomdark, it's probably a no but do you know if anyone made any changes/fixes to the game based on my posts about Scottish and Breton culture in the bug forum?
 

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Just to remind everyone: Turning OFF auto-updates in Steam will NOT keep your game from automatically patching!!

What it actually does is keep Steam from auto-updating so long as you never run the game from within Steam!

According to the Steam developers, this is WAD. The reasoning behind this is, you tell Steam to stop auto updates, but if you actually ever run that game, Steam immediately checks and upgrades to the latest version, because, as far as Steam is concerned, that game may have a multiplayer mode, and for multiplayer to work, all players must be on the latest version. And since Steam is designed, like so many other products, to cater to the lowest common denominator (casual gamers who know next to nothing about computers, patching, or multiplayer), it has to ensure that everyone can play multiplayer so it ALWAYS autoupdates whenever you run a game from within Steam. Of course, Steam isn't smart enough to know which games have multiplayer and which don't, so it auto-updates on launch every game.

There is only one way to stop Steam from auto-updating, and that is to put your Steam client into Offline mode.

Also, as has been stated numerous times by the developers themselves, 1.05g save games will NOT work in 1.06, so if you have a game and you want to finish it, and you're on Steam, then you must put your Steam into Offline mode before the patch is released into Steam.

Additionally, updating your Steam client seems to nuke all your settings about which games not to update. It will refresh all your game settings to default auto-update.

Finally, you can check this behavior yourself. While in Online Mode, simply set a game to never update. Then shutdown and restart Steam (in Online Mode). Now play that game from within Steam. Once you exit the game, check your Auto-Update settings for that game again and you'll see it is back to Auto-Update.
 

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Just to remind everyone: Turning OFF auto-updates in Steam will NOT keep your game from automatically patching!!

What it actually does is keep Steam from auto-updating so long as you never run the game from within Steam!

According to the Steam developers, this is WAD. The reasoning behind this is, you tell Steam to stop auto updates, but if you actually ever run that game, Steam immediately checks and upgrades to the latest version, because, as far as Steam is concerned, that game may have a multiplayer mode, and for multiplayer to work, all players must be on the latest version. And since Steam is designed, like so many other products, to cater to the lowest common denominator (casual gamers who know next to nothing about computers, patching, or multiplayer), it has to ensure that everyone can play multiplayer so it ALWAYS autoupdates whenever you run a game from within Steam. Of course, Steam isn't smart enough to know which games have multiplayer and which don't, so it auto-updates on launch every game.

There is only one way to stop Steam from auto-updating, and that is to put your Steam client into Offline mode.

Also, as has been stated numerous times by the developers themselves, 1.05g save games will NOT work in 1.06, so if you have a game and you want to finish it, and you're on Steam, then you must put your Steam into Offline mode before the patch is released into Steam.

Additionally, updating your Steam client seems to nuke all your settings about which games not to update. It will refresh all your game settings to default auto-update.

Finally, you can check this behavior yourself. While in Online Mode, simply set a game to never update. Then shutdown and restart Steam (in Online Mode). Now play that game from within Steam. Once you exit the game, check your Auto-Update settings for that game again and you'll see it is back to Auto-Update.

Thanks, this is very usefull information.

I will post it also in the tech-support forum.
 

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actually Trias10 ... if you read the previous page doomdark said that it'd work ... it just wouldn't be pretty (with the new areas being greyed out and a few event trees not working)
 

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So when this patch will be released?
 

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actually Trias10 ... if you read the previous page doomdark said that it'd work ... it just wouldn't be pretty (with the new areas being greyed out and a few event trees not working)

I have read it, but I'm of the opinion that a game with all sorts of areas greyed out, and who knows what else disabled is a half game anyway. I would call this "not working." Given the way the Clauzewitz works, doing a massive upgrade/upsert of assets will probably introduce a whole bunch of unknown unknowns in trying to migrate save game files between 1.05 -> 1.06. Therefore it's easier to preempt and simply say they won't work. Also, I don't think it was Doomdark who said that, but Veldmaarschalk, who I believe is a moderator, not a developer.

Once 1.06 hits, and people start reporting bugs or issues, you'll see the very first thing anyone says is "are you playing a 1.05 savegame? you should start fresh in 1.06 and see if the problem goes away".

Therefore, I stand by my original statement.

Btw, I'm not trying to be rude, just trying to be helpful. I look at this from a statistical perspective (for example, 1.05 had 7 hotfix patches). If you want to minimize your chances of day 0 issues, I'd start a fresh game rather than migrate.
 
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... if you read the quote i have on top of this page (10) you can clearly see that its doomdark that said that it would work, but no promises if it'd work competely without any errors
 

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He also said, like trias mentioned, that the new stuff will be blacked out and that a lot of other stuff will be broken. Which is why he said it will be semi-compatible.
 

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He said, she said. Yawn.