Passing through neutral countries without declaring war.

[Otto117]

The year is 1689 and i'm playing as France and I'm allied with the Commonwealth. They call me into a war against Russia and i accept.
This war should be easy, my army is very powerful right now and my manpower is almost maxed.
Then Mecklenburg (the shortest route between our countries) refuses to give me military access. Then every other country with a landroute to the enemy refuses me access. So now I can't join the fighting.

I think there should be a mechanic where I can still move my army into Mecklenburg(as an example) just to pass through, but they will get a Casus Belli on me and I should lose prestige for violating their sovereignty. But it should not be impossible to march through neutral territory.

 

[Freudia]

I think there should be a mechanic where I can still move my army into Mecklenburg(as an example) just to pass through, but they will get a Casus Belli on me and I should lose prestige for violating their sovereignty. But it should not be impossible to march through neutral territory.

It's called 'being the emperor of the HRE', or alternatively 'military access'.

With that said, if the nation refuses to give you access, then I do feel like you should just be able to walk through them. Either that or buy access; the AI is too hung-up on 'relations' to consider that I might be willing to negotiate passage for my troops.

 

[ragingrondo12]

The year is 1689 and i'm playing as France and I'm allied with the Commonwealth. They call me into a war against Russia and i accept.
This war should be easy, my army is very powerful right now and my manpower is almost maxed.
Then Mecklenburg (the shortest route between our countries) refuses to give me military access. Then every other country with a landroute to the enemy refuses me access. So now I can't join the fighting.

I think there should be a mechanic where I can still move my army into Mecklenburg(as an example) just to pass through, but they will get a Casus Belli on me and I should lose prestige for violating their sovereignty. But it should not be impossible to march through neutral territory.

Sorry for any bad English. Not my first language.

You can Dow, win and get them to enforce access. Outside of that, no real ways to force it, outside of improving relations.

 

[Illianor123]

Try improving relations, but they really have to have a very negative opinion of you to not give access.

 

[DominusNovus]

Transport ships?

 

[Mikalos]

why would it give you a prestige malus for violating somebody elses soverignty? you should get a prestige gain from that crap.

also, declare war on that worthless OPM and incorporate it into the glorious french state for the duration of the war.

 

[stangles]

I agree you should be able to just cross with negative ramifications for doing so without permission. Such as aggressive expansion, or cassis beli etc

 

[crownsteler]

Wait, what? If you move your army into the territory of another country without permission, then that is an act of war. You are violating their sovereignty, and the whole world should see it as a declaration of war. So yeah, you either declare war, or you don't do it. And yes, you should get a massive prestige hit for it, because you basically made a fool out of yourself: You just showed the whole world you are incapable of bullying a minor into doing your biddings. For the same reason, your power projection should take a dive, and you should rack up quite a a bit of agressive expansion as well. This is basically what the Germans did in WW1 and WW2, and yeah, the whole world thought that that was just swell...

Also, it gives you a reason to maintain relations with even minor states. Why remove it?