Party System and Execut. D. questions

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Why is it that in Ricky there are for example const. monarchies with parliamentarism and some with the classic HM government `?

IS this a game messup or is it to show different constitutions ?


and

Is there a way to make a two party system a multi party one, or is this fixed by country once and for all ?

 

[OHgamer]

ON the first, these are two different forms of designation, based on who has the authority to replace a govt in a constitutional monarchy.

If you make a minimal amount of reforms, you can make a monarchy into a con-mon with HMs Government, which means that you can appoint governments at will even outside of an election. I believe you get this if you keep the "Right to ban" on political parties.

On the flipside, if your reforms include all political parties allowed, but you do not reform so much you become a democracy, then I believe you will get Parliametarianism, which means that you can not replace the govt in power on your own, only elections will determine the party in power.

I'm not 100% positive on this, but that is the main essence of the difference - whether or not you can replace the party in power outside of an election while still having a monarchy.


And there is no way to change a 2-party to multiparty IIRC except change by event or if a revolution seizes power.

 

[Zaleukos]

In older versions there used to be a bug (misspelling of government in HM's gov IIRC) with one of the events that made the transition from monarchy to con mon, so one ended up with parliamentarism instead... Has that been fixed with Ricky and subsequent patches?

 

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In older versions there used to be a bug (misspelling of government in HM's gov IIRC) with one of the events that made the transition from monarchy to con mon, so one ended up with parliamentarism instead... Has that been fixed with Ricky and subsequent patches?

If you open up the 1881 scenario, you will see that luxembourg has a con mon with parliamentarism.

I tried elections to see how it plays out and it works exactly like a democracy.
On the other hand i tried a dictatorship with parlamentarism in the same scenario and there people voted for a party but the assigned one stayed in power.

So maybe this displays the difference between a constitutional and a parliamentary monarchy as well as different forms of dictatorship, but it might be a bug as well, thats what i wanted to find out actually.

 

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Quote OHgamer:On the flipside, if your reforms include all political parties allowed, but you do not reform so much you become a democracy, then I believe you will get Parliametarianism, which means that you can not replace the govt in power on your own, only elections will determine the party in power.

So will this eventually change the government form as well?

 

[OHgamer]

Quote OHgamer:On the flipside, if your reforms include all political parties allowed, but you do not reform so much you become a democracy, then I believe you will get Parliametarianism, which means that you can not replace the govt in power on your own, only elections will determine the party in power.

So will this eventually change the government form as well?

If you mean will the Con-Mon become a democracy with further reforms, no I do not believe so. The only way to change a Con-Mon to a democracy is via revolution or event.

Basically once you make a monarchy "constitutional" the monarchy stays in place. And I don't think there is an ability to change from HM Government to Parliamentarism either, except by event.

 

[ArneHD]

If you are a Con-Mon with HM Government you keep the ability to select party at will even if you choose free parties.

 

[Nyrael]

What bonuses does democracy have and Const. Monarchy does not? I mean, sellecting the party you wish in power is a great power in times of need while democracy gives you very little control over the rulling parties.

 

[Meanmanturbo]

What bonuses does democracy have and Const. Monarchy does not? I mean, sellecting the party you wish in power is a great power in times of need while democracy gives you very little control over the rulling parties.

IFIAK in democracys plurality reduces revolt risk, in dictatorships it increases revolt risk and con mons are neutral to plurality in regards to revolt risk. SO, democracys reduce roevolt risk with high plurality, while it does nothing for con mons,

 

[|AXiN|]

IIRC in a Con Mon, plurality has no effect on pops, while in a democracy it reduces militancy

 

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Not only dubble post, but hitting reply insted of edit...

Hahaha! :rofl: well done! I must say though... it would be nice to be able to delete our own posts (if say) it was the last post in that thread. This is what is done over at terranova, and really helps with accidental double posts. Saves work for the moderators too!

 

[jdrou]

Hahaha! :rofl: well done! I must say though... it would be nice to be able to delete our own posts (if say) it was the last post in that thread. This is what is done over at terranova, and really helps with accidental double posts. Saves work for the moderators too!

Click 'edit', select the 'delete message' radio button, then click the 'delete this message' button. Works fine for me. Only limitation I'm aware of is that you can't delete the first post of the thread even if no one has responded yet (effectively deleting the thread).

 

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You see... this is why you should really be a moderator... you know everything!

 

[jdrou]

Too much work. Besides, I don't need to be a mod to share knowledge.