Did they change it from -40 to -50 in the last patch? (I'm talking about the hit you get with your other vassals, not the guy you've imprisoned)
Oh, I meant the one for the guy who got tossed in the slammer next to the 300 lb knight named Bubba.
If you survive this without giving up Palermo, you sir, are a legend.
I'm sure I can withstand several waves of 25,000 man armies...