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Craig Ashley

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Re: About the WTO

Originally posted by Timothy
I wish to thank Mr. Langley for presenting the dissenting opinion of the commission to join the WTO. It indicates that joining the WTO is a subject studied in depth from multiple angles. For that I pay my respects to the commission.

But the reasons outlined by Langley not to join the WTO can be turned around to work in our favour too. To quote a favourite fictional character: "It's a poor man's nuclear blaster that doesn't point both ways." First, joining the WTO is a first step to see Eutopian agriculture produce sold on European markets. Surely all present can see the benefit of that. Second, if we can no longer embargo the French, so can the French, or any other European country, no longer embargo us.

Mr. Josephus, what is this 'economic sovereignty' you are talking about? Doesn't a free market economy indicate that we never had any 'economic sovereignty from the start?

- Timothy Wellesford

I'd like to address Mr. Wellsford's remarks. I agree the Commission was both thorough and fair. It is a shining an example of what can happen when intelligent human beings can do if they come together to thoughtfully discuss the issues of the day.

Your right, Eutopian agriculture products would have open access to the European markets, where we may have a competitive advantage over domestic products, however, do you think we still have the absolute advantage on the world market? American methods and technologlies still surpass our own, and we are at a disadvantage when competing with their federally subsidized farmers. Not to mention, pragmatically speaking, Eutopia is not an agricultural nation. We are an industrialized nation, and our manufactured goods face severe disadvantages when competing with third world produced products.

As to "economic sovereignty", yes in a true capitalist enviroment there is no such thing. The market alone would dicatate everything, but no where on earth is there an example of pure, unregulated capitalism. Everyone here recognizes the need to regulate and at time control the market. Mr. Josephus and I would disagree vehemently as to how extensive these regulations and controls should be, but we both, as does everyone here, recognize the need for some government oversight. Joining the WTO would strip away a portion of that soveriegnty and allow decisions that affect Eutopians to be made by non Eutopians with interests that may conflict with our own.
 

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Election time is upon us. However, this does not mean we have to stop working.

I propose we take the Military Reform Bill to a vote unless somebody wants to discuss something about it very quickly. Keep in mind there is no timetable for the purchase of American equipment, meaning we have a reasonable amount of time to defuse Senator Blowerd and get back on Bush's good side. The obvious way to do so is to say we're fighting a war on terror...but I digress. Unless there's any discussion I move we vote on the MRB. It has been seconded but not discussed at all.

I also propose we wait on the WTO bill for next term, when we can discuss (argue!) at length and for as long as we want. However, in the event you agree wth me, I hereby invite myself to this chamber to speak as Chairman of the WTO Commission with regards to the Commission's final report.
 

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Originally posted by Hajji Giray I
Election time is upon us. However, this does not mean we have to stop working.

I propose we take the Military Reform Bill to a vote unless somebody wants to discuss something about it very quickly. Keep in mind there is no timetable for the purchase of American equipment, meaning we have a reasonable amount of time to defuse Senator Blowerd and get back on Bush's good side. The obvious way to do so is to say we're fighting a war on terror...but I digress. Unless there's any discussion I move we vote on the MRB. It has been seconded but not discussed at all.

I also propose we wait on the WTO bill for next term, when we can discuss (argue!) at length and for as long as we want. However, in the event you agree wth me, I hereby invite myself to this chamber to speak as Chairman of the WTO Commission with regards to the Commission's final report.

Mr. Morgan,

You know we can't have a vote on the Military Reform Bill now. Elections always last seven days, which will be the day after the elections. This is not allowed. Unfortunately, I cannot bring any new bills to a vote. The Hight Court has denied all previous requests for exceptions to this rule. I don't think we need to try again. We could always try, I suppose. What do you say?

Anyway, Mr. Morgan, you are allowed to speak to the Assembly about the WTO.

Bram Borgman
 

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Dah! That stinks...

Well, it seems nobody's against it [the Military bill], so it'd be perfectly okay to let things wait a while. :D

So it seems our business is done until the elections are over...
 

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I had bills that were delayed after Parliament ended last term, your bill will have to late till next term as well.
 
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