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The World of 1683 Anno Domini
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## STATS FOR MP ###
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Current Score
  1. Ottomans 7917 (+2.89)
  2. Great Britain 5400 (+4.71)
  3. France 5325 (+4.84)
  4. Ming 4659 (+4.01)
  5. Commonwealth 3441 (+2.83)
  6. Spain 3252 (+2.52)
  7. Portugal 3137 (+4.00)
  8. Songhai 3067 (+0.00)
  9. Korea 3015 (+0.00)
  10. Ethiopia 2691 (+2.10)
  11. Austria 2482 (+2.94)
  12. Venice 2422 (+0.84)
  13. Pasai 2261 (+0.42)
  14. Malwa 1851 (+0.21)
  15. Gujarat 1642 (+0.21)
  16. Morocco 1040 (+0.00)
  17. Sweden 788 (+0.68)
  18. Brabant 755 (+0.63)
  19. Hamburg 469 (+0.00)
  20. Mughals 428 (+0.00)
Development
  1. Commonwealth 1722
  2. France 1471
  3. Ming 1397
  4. Ottomans 1333
  5. Ethiopia 1286
  6. Austria 1192
  7. Great Britain 931
  8. Malwa 857
  9. Songhai 755
  10. Mughals 727
  11. Spain 719
  12. Pasai 692
  13. Sweden 620
  14. Morocco 614
  15. Gujarat 585
  16. Portugal 547
  17. Brunei 535
  18. Korea 475
  19. Thirteen Colonies 435
  20. Mong Yang 424
Income
  1. Portugal 482.05
  2. Great Britain 252.96
  3. Ming 243.52
  4. France 195.68
  5. Austria 179.10
  6. Spain 169.18
  7. Ethiopia 166.93
  8. Commonwealth 162.42
  9. Ottomans 142.43
  10. Malwa 139.94
  11. Songhai 118.31
  12. Morocco 99.77
  13. Pasai 83.20
  14. Sweden 79.87
  15. Mughals 79.80
  16. Venice 79.67
  17. Gujarat 74.34
  18. Brunei 69.56
  19. Korea 45.80
  20. Thirteen Colonies 39.56
Max. Manpower
  1. Commonwealth 198K
  2. Ming 179K
  3. Austria 160K
  4. Malwa 150K
  5. Ethiopia 143K
  6. France 135K
  7. Songhai 131K
  8. Ottomans 131K
  9. Mughals 128K
  10. Pasai 100K
  11. Great Britain 100K
  12. Sweden 92,001
  13. Spain 89,160
  14. Gujarat 87,843
  15. Korea 65,117
  16. Thirteen Colonies 61,755
  17. Morocco 54,914
  18. Mong Yang 49,155
  19. Brunei 48,764
  20. Burgundy 46,596
Standing Army
  1. Ming 240K
  2. France 218K
  3. Commonwealth 176K
  4. Ottomans 152K
  5. Ethiopia 150K
  6. Austria 131K
  7. Great Britain 114K
  8. Spain 109K
  9. Sweden 108K
  10. Gujarat 96,000
  11. Songhai 92,000
  12. Malwa 84,000
  13. Morocco 74,000
  14. Mughals 70,000
  15. Pasai 70,000
  16. Brunei 63,680
  17. Korea 53,000
  18. Thirteen Colonies 48,000
  19. Mong Yang 46,000
  20. Lan Xang 37,000
War Fleet
  1. Great Britain 60/0
  2. Ottomans 53/0
  3. Portugal 51/0
  4. Spain 32/0
  5. France 28/0
  6. Brunei 23/0
  7. Ethiopia 20/0
  8. Pasai 19/0
  9. Morocco 15/0
  10. Korea 0/13
  11. Sweden 1/10
  12. Ouchi 0/11
  13. Theodoro 0/9
  14. Brabant 7/0
  15. Genoa 0/7
  16. Cyprus 0/5
  17. Mughals 4/0
  18. Istvaan III 0/4
  19. Ming 3/0
  20. Siak 2/0
Trade Fleet
  1. Great Britain 291
  2. Portugal 102
  3. Spain 71
  4. Morocco 63
  5. Brabant 63
  6. Gujarat 53
  7. Venice 51
  8. France 47
  9. Ming 47
  10. Pasai 43
  11. Champa 39
  12. Praefectura Mahometana 27
  13. Sweden 26
  14. Hamburg 26
  15. Malwa 25
  16. Brunei 22
  17. Japan 22
  18. Austria 21
  19. Spanish La Plata 21
  20. West Indies 20
Technologies
  1. France 67
  2. Great Britain 66
  3. Portugal 66
  4. Spain 66
  5. Brabant 66
  6. Venice 66
  7. West Indies 66
  8. Nassau 66
  9. Moldavia 66
  10. Ming 65
  11. Austria 65
  12. Terre Australe 65
  13. Burgundy 65
  14. Gujarat 64
  15. Brunei 64
  16. Siak 64
  17. Newfoundland 64
  18. Praefectura Santa Crux 64
  19. Brittany 64
  20. Serbia 64
Great Power
  1. Commonwealth 1742
  2. Ottomans 1661
  3. France 1554
  4. Great Britain 1417
  5. Ming 1397
  6. Austria 1205
  7. Ethiopia 1130
  8. Spain 1060
    [~]Malwa 864
    [~]Songhai 788
    [~]Morocco 658
    [~]Mughals 550
    [~]Portugal 543
    [~]Pasai 524
    [~]Sweden 469
    [~]Gujarat 443
    [~]Brunei 437
    [~]Mong Yang 321
    [~]Burgundy 295
    [~]Brabant 273

 
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Everyone's upset about Europe and I'm just salty that Mughals aren't expanding into India. They'd rank in the Great Powers if they had just taken Gujarat while the Ottomans were busy with Austria. Give Ming back its cores and just have an eastern alliance there. If Mughals had India and were allied to Ming, well, the Common-man alliance would have a run for their money, I think.

Sorry :)

I can also say that if there was a ming player when I got into the game I would most likely have gone this exact route, but that wasn't the case and I'm going to stick with the deals that I make rather than stabbing everything around me for a temporary gain.
 
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I have a question: what are Trin Tragula and BjornB's statuses regarding eligibility for trophies? I don't expect it to be terribly relevant this campaign, but if a player were eliminated and/or forced to tag-switch and (hypothetically) got really high in the rankings with a different nation, would they be eligible for awards with that new nation, or are they out of the running completely, or something in between?
I think Johan won (or placed in the top three at least) once when he was killed in the first session.
 
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Just to have it stated so everyone know. This Daniel and Daniel alliance you speak of will never happen (at least not in this session). When someone tells you "I will not attack you" twice and then both times do it anyway you kind of loose the will to ally that person.
 
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Just to have it stated so everyone know. This Daniel and Daniel alliance you speak of will never happen (at least not in this session). When someone tells you "I will not attack you" twice and then both times do it anyway you kind of loose the will to ally that person.
People keep going on about everyone ganging up on Austria, when it is clear that it is Austria's own diplomatic failures that've led it to happen.

Their resistance in the latest war was impressive, but being the target to begin with is their own fault.
 
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I agree that starnan is very strong in this game with his Austria (GG for that by the way).
But when I saw this coalition war it was just a joke, 5 great power versus 1.... (more than the triple development of Austria)

Anyway in most MP games block alliances are always a problem, and starnan is experiencing it...

But starnan got my support, 1 versus all. Respect :cool:

I asked him repeatedly to not protect Brabant. He said he needed them for protection.

Now my british troops may not be crack french or austrian soldiers, but 120k of them was more than enough to eradicate Brabant...

The carribean light fleet have been rebased into the mediterranean to enrich the merchants in London..

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Thanks for all the nice comments here and in the chat. Makes the campaign a little more bearable. :) I don't think my "diplomatic skill" will increase in this campaign. Said it before, it's not how I want to play this campaign. If there are players with common interests/victory cards, I will of course talk to them but I won't go out of my way to make them win wars for me. Did it last campaign, that was enough.

Just to have it stated so everyone know. This Daniel and Daniel alliance you speak of will never happen (at least not in this session). When someone tells you "I will not attack you" twice and then both times do it anyway you kind of loose the will to ally that person.

If you want to spread misinformation to other players so they can attack me, that is fine. Doing it here just feels meh. I still think Fritaly 2.0 would have been fun and exciting.
 
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Thanks for the answers regarding relocation. This is the first dev MP that I've watched, so I hadn't seen what happened in previous ones.

I should go back and watch those, it sounds interesting :)
You should! I believe I have watched almost all of them, that was before I started working at Paradox. I really enjoyed them. :)
 
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Rule Britannia, Britannia rules not much.
Less than the french and the dutch..
 
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I've made a new promo image for tomorrows session, highlighting the current major players...

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It has been mentioned by a few here already, but that war against Austria was just a bullying deluxe. Be it as it may and StarNaN obviously sucks at diplomacy with breaking promises/etc., I still can't comprehend that the other players sink so low in their self-esteem that they needed to gang up in that fashion. StarNaN might have lost this war but everybody who went to war against him last session pretty much made most of the viewers root for him - and it speaks volumes about the military skill level that StarNaN managed to get a ticking war score in his favor based on battles alone. I don't want to justify StarNaN's poor behavior with the PLC and Venice, etc., but for the time being his play-style so far had the most flavor to it (even though it's controversial).

What business does Great Britain have on the continent? Brexit them out of there... Allowing the Ottomans to do their shenanigans in the HRE while they are comparatively getting weaker and weaker each session? Pick them apart already... That bullying against Ming the previous session? Disgusting and a lot of kudos to Forza for standing his ground so honorably...

Of course diplomacy is important but these dev-streams should have an entertainment factor that goes beyond Jake's (at times biased) comments, converting half of Europe to Coptic Faith and only doing what is self-serving. It is not entertaining to watch wars where the developers gang up on each other in 3vs1 or even 5vs1. If we, as players, want to see wars that are practically won before they start, we can play single-player campaigns.

Another one @DDRJake: rank the players not just based on Monarch skills, but add "diplomatic reputation" every now and then. After the war against Austria, the aggressors should have a -3 dip-rep for 10years - at least. And/or monarch traits: loose lips for Groogy, greedy for StarNaN, and so on.

I hope that with 140years to go we see highly entertaining shifts in power with truly challenging pan-continental wars instead of the continuation of "opportunism par exellence".


-Fuel-




P.S. A not thought through suggestion: for the next dev-stream have them all start as OPM's/smaller nations.

You should have watched the last dev mp, FRITALY VS THE WORLD!
 
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Hey I joined you for the final war!
 
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I gave up not because I was defeated, It was after I did the math on how Victory cards are generated and how much it will potentially cost me (like someone pointed out it will cost me way too much and I am gonna get completely run over and lose about 4k score meaning I won't even be in top 8 anymore). Though first I figured maybe I can turn someone around and kick it all back, but when I saw the Prussia trade happening I just flipped the table and decided no there is no way for me to regain the points I will lose by getting Victory cards on me.


So I decided I have better work to do than sit and watch as I even drop out of the top 8 in score..... Again.....
Also the only player I ever attacked was StarNaN and I never organized any coalition, the huge one against him last time was organized by Britain and France.
 
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Fight till the end and make they win painful. If everyone leaves when it is not going great then the game would be empty after 3 sessions

You dont understand, this is the fifth game I don't get top 8 with the only reason "Johan thinks it's funny to bully Groogy". I'm done, I'm exhausted,I I am not playing EU4 mp again, this was my last show. I hope you enjoyed my Almost Holy Roman Coptomans(I had majority of the vote for HRE a looooong time) but you wont see more of me in this or future streams.
Because of today, I can't even stay top 8, which was the entire goal because Johan thinks it is funny.
 
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You dont understand, this is the fifth game I don't get top 8 with the only reason "Johan thinks it's funny to bully Groogy". I'm done, I'm exhausted,I I am not playing EU4 mp again, this was my last show. I hope you enjoyed my Almost Holy Roman Coptomans(I had majority of the vote for HRE a looooong time) but you wont see more of me in this or future streams.
Because of today, I can't even stay top 8, which was the entire goal because Johan thinks it is funny.

Mission accomplished.

Only needed to talk to one person for five minutes this campaign to do it.

Technically, i was not aiming for you to drop out of top 8, i was destroying to hugbox in the east, to make sure OE and PLC would no longer be friends..
 
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Also not obvious in the game, but Austria and PLC did not plan on taking constantiple, Johan demanded they did, it was his only demand in the war.
 
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Also not obvious in the game, but Austria and PLC did not plan on taking constantiple, Johan demanded they did, it was his only demand in the war.

Yes. Because it would cripple you.. only thing i asked.

I am just surprised Ethiopia gave up lile that. If i had been eth, i had fought.. if all else had failed, OE would be by devoted ally, and next session had been focused on breaking apart the wesr..
 
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