Paradox Office Multiplayer Campaign V

[Groogy]

On sidenote, I hope you remembered to destroy HRE, when you had Madrid sieged.

Such an act would be unacceptable as the Tsar only recognize one Co-Emperor with the Eastern Empire that is Russia. Tsar Pavel have always and will always regard the Lord-Mayor of Gotland as the true inheritor of the Western Roman Empire and any attempts to threaten the sovereignty of the Western Roman Emperor is an attack on the Russian Empire.

 

[ForzaA]

Buildings dock plus drydock +6 NFL per province

Unless you have found a trick to get the drydock to NOT replace the dock, you only get the +4 from the drydock.

When he puts 150 lights in venice, 150 lights in genoa (with a trader who collects there), 150 light in constaniople.

It'll take some masterful diplomacy to get into range of all of those without tipping anyone off.

The 150 heavies make sure that nobody tries to DOW this navy. After securing european trade, england can start leeching of india. So late in game, a trade fleet with 50 heavies + 150 light ships pay for themself. even when you are nearly 3 times over naval forcelimit.

Either you get everyone to go against you at the same time (and believe me, France + Spain+ Italy (or whoever) + Ottomans can muster a fair fleet if you're going to bully them like that - they don't need to beat your heavies, they just need to make sure you can't keep your lights trading profitably.
Or they could reroute trade / collect elsewhere / Embargo to limit the value of these trade nodes.. Good luck paying for your fleet then.


I'm not saying it's impossible to pull off - but I am saying it'll take some careful work to do so, and not get smacked down halfway through.

 

[ForzaA]

So, it turns out that I want Britain dead.

Curious thing that, I had no idea I wanted Britain dead..

I am now very confused, and wondering if there's a mole somewhere who is withholding critical information from me.

 

[Groogy]

In the Year of Our Lord 1762

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## STATS FOR MP ###
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Current Score

1. Bahmanis 15165 (+9.96)
2. Great Britain 11432 (+6.52)
3. Mughals 10920 (+6.86)
4. Mamluks 9770 (+8.58)
5. Italy 8359 (+4.15)
6. Burgundy 7632 (+5.15)
7. France 6827 (+2.68)
8. Ming 6375 (+5.15)
9. Ottomans 6325 (+0.37)
10. Russia 5661 (+2.31)
11. Portugal 4812 (+2.17)
12. Denmark 4448 (+1.37)
13. Spain 3894 (+1.03)
14. Poland 677 (+0.00)
15. Bohemia 359 (+0.00)
16. Lancastria 62 (+0.00)
17. Gotland 26 (+0.00)
18. Spanish Apalnosee 25 (+0.00)
19. Pasai 22 (+0.00)
20. Maryland 14 (+0.00)

Development

1. Bahmanis 1952
2. Ming 1800
3. Portugal 1800
4. Mamluks 1711
5. Mughals 1599
6. Russia 1473
7. Italy 1461
8. Great Britain 1396
9. Ottomans 1065
10. Burgundy 1045
11. Spain 856
12. France 816
13. Bohemia 650
14. Poland 646
15. Denmark 614
16. Spanish Apalnosee 573
17. British Frink 494
18. New Francia 359
19. Queensland 322
20. Spanish Rewhannock 286

Income

1. Bahmanis 446.73
2. Mamluks 371.77
3. Great Britain 259.05
4. Mughals 235.02
5. Ming 229.97
6. Italy 223.84
7. Burgundy 176.00
8. France 155.54
9. Russia 137.64
10. Portugal 136.33
11. Denmark 132.36
12. Spain 103.10
13. Ottomans 101.82
14. Bohemia 82.02
15. Poland 57.84
16. Spanish Apalnosee 51.25
17. British Frink 37.25
18. Spanish Rewhannock 28.88
19. Queensland 28.57
20. New Francia 24.33

Max. Manpower

1. Russia 272K
2. Ming 252K
3. Italy 227K
4. Bahmanis 226K
5. Mughals 204K
6. Mamluks 197K
7. Burgundy 177K
8. Great Britain 136K
9. Ottomans 134K
10. Bohemia 133K
11. France 107K
12. Denmark 98,851
13. Spain 98,536
14. Poland 97,991
15. Spanish Apalnosee 78,937
16. Portugal 66,841
17. British Frink 55,943
18. Mamlukean Sattisa 48,096
19. Spanish Rewhannock 39,000
20. New Francia 38,597

Standing Army

1. Bahmanis 472K
2. Mamluks 389K
3. Italy 354K
4. Ming 353K
5. Mughals 338K
6. Russia 230K
7. Burgundy 201K
8. Great Britain 192K
9. Ottomans 163K
10. France 149K
11. Denmark 118K
12. Spain 113K
13. Poland 112K
14. Bohemia 108K
15. Spanish Apalnosee 66,000
16. British Frink 55,000
17. Queensland 34,000
18. Spanish Rewhannock 31,000
19. Portuguese Australia 29,000
20. Maryland 29,000

War Fleet

1. Bahmanis 115/0
2. Great Britain 97/14
3. Mamluks 103/0
4. Burgundy 52/0
5. Portugal 51/0
6. Russia 45/0
7. Mughals 34/0
8. Denmark 18/13
9. Spain 28/0
10. Ming 18/2
11. France 20/0
12. Spanish Apalnosee 11/0
13. Gotland 0/9
14. Italy 0/4
15. Syria 0/3
16. New Francia 3/0
17. Tidore 2/0
18. Antarctic Francia 1/0
19. Masquois 1/0
20. Queensland 0/0

Trade Fleet

1. Italy 130
2. Great Britain 104
3. Ottomans 100
4. Denmark 59
5. France 50
6. Mamluks 49
7. Bahmanis 45
8. Spanish Apalnosee 45
9. Portugal 41
10. Mughals 34
11. Queensland 31
12. Portuguese Australia 26
13. Spain 25
14. Lancastria 24
15. Ming 21
16. Antarctic Francia 20
17. British Frink 19
18. Burgundy 17
19. New Francia 15
20. Spanish Rewhannock 14

Technologies

1. Italy 84
2. Great Britain 84
3. France 84
4. Mamluks 84
5. Mughals 83
6. Antarctic Francia 83
7. Bohemia 83
8. Portuguese Sarpig 82
9. Nugget Francia 82
10. Bahmanis 82
11. Portugal 82
12. Queensland 82
13. Spain 82
14. Ming 82
15. Burgundy 82
16. Spanish Rewhannock 82
17. Maryland 82
18. Little Francia 82
19. Spanish Sattisa 82
20. Spanish Apalnosee 81

 

[LittleFido]

Pressing questions after this MP session:

Will Groogy ever finish in the top 8?
Will Groogy ever contribute more than 4% to a war?
Will Groogy ever be able to have the biggest name?

I think the answer to all of this is no. If only he wasn't a Dane and could speak an intelligible language!

Jokes and bad memes aside, this has been a lot of fun to watch. Thanks for putting this on

By the power of Roland, there is a chance

 

[yonaz]

With risk of being a bit biased towars my own benefit, it is not always the best option to just gather a grand coalition and go for the nr1 all the time. You have to think on your own situation afterwards and what YOU actually gain on it. The guy in nr2 spot should probably think twice about it.

There is always also a big web of deals/alliances going across the entire globe behind the scenes. So it isn't always as easy to attack certain targets as it might seem.
Many people also care about their words and promises they have given, which might be smart for future campaigns.

I think GB for example chosed a good diplomatic choice by actually asking my alliance for help, instead of joining a coalition against us. He would probably never have passed either France nor Italy otherwise. Same goes for Mughals who needed to pass them in score.

Also if lets say 3 countries co-operate in order to try and get trophies, it might be wise to not start a fight internally for which trophy you get or you might not get anything at all.

 

[yonaz]

We probably needed some player in ayuthaya to balance things out. I am not the only player who did massive expansion into AI countries though.
At the point when I was surrounded by only players and all AI was gone, I had only gobbled up slightly more amount of AI development as mamluks,mughals,burgundy etc.

 

[Groogy]

In the Year of our Lord 1791

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## STATS FOR MP ###
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Current Score

1. Bahmanis 21965 (+11.61)
2. Great Britain 19149 (+8.00)
3. Mughals 17005 (+8.40)
4. Mamluks 13061 (+10.40)
5. Italy 11403 (+5.60)
6. Ming 10219 (+6.55)
7. Burgundy 8877 (+4.00)
8. France 7966 (+1.30)
9. Ottomans 6640 (+0.94)
10. Russia 6334 (+3.05)
11. Portugal 5922 (+4.40)
12. Denmark 4969 (+1.60)
13. Spain 4452 (+1.20)
14. Poland 678 (+0.00)
15. Bohemia 359 (+0.00)
16. Lancastria 62 (+0.00)
17. Spanish Apalnosee 53 (+0.00)
18. Maryland 37 (+0.00)
19. Gotland 26 (+0.00)
20. Pasai 22 (+0.00)

Development

1. Bahmanis 2057
2. Portugal 1955
3. Ming 1813
4. Mamluks 1748
5. Mughals 1699
6. Italy 1573
7. Russia 1545
8. Great Britain 1475
9. Ottomans 1079
10. Burgundy 1019
11. France 953
12. Spain 794
13. Poland 648
14. Bohemia 620
15. Denmark 614
16. Spanish Apalnosee 610
17. British Frink 564
18. Mamlukean Sattisa 386
19. Queensland 376
20. Spanish Rewhannock 328

Income

1. Bahmanis 425.87
2. Mamluks 409.93
3. Great Britain 246.46
4. Mughals 235.40
5. Italy 232.07
6. Ming 210.66
7. Burgundy 195.96
8. Portugal 194.41
9. Denmark 160.32
10. France 154.41
11. Russia 146.59
12. Spain 110.71
13. Ottomans 98.26
14. Bohemia 91.57
15. Poland 60.78
16. Spanish Apalnosee 57.21
17. British Frink 40.44
18. Queensland 34.04
19. Mamlukean Sattisa 32.88
20. Spanish Rewhannock 31.13

Max. Manpower

1. Ming 286K
2. Russia 281K
3. Bahmanis 255K
4. Italy 252K
5. Mamluks 205K
6. Mughals 204K
7. Burgundy 174K
8. Great Britain 147K
9. Ottomans 139K
10. Bohemia 137K
11. France 129K
12. Denmark 100K
13. Poland 97,767
14. Spain 90,482
15. Spanish Apalnosee 81,187
16. Portugal 78,451
17. British Frink 70,632
18. Mamlukean Sattisa 63,299
19. New Francia 51,062
20. The Land of Land 46,736

Standing Army

1. Bahmanis 490K
2. Mamluks 448K
3. Italy 400K
4. Ming 393K
5. Mughals 338K
6. Great Britain 230K
7. Russia 208K
8. Burgundy 206K
9. Ottomans 194K
10. France 184K
11. Bohemia 130K
12. Denmark 120K
13. Portugal 119K
14. Poland 100K
15. Spain 77,000
16. British Frink 63,000
17. Spanish Apalnosee 61,000
18. Queensland 42,330
19. Spanish Rewhannock 37,000
20. Mamlukean Sattisa 35,000

War Fleet

1. Great Britain 140/14
2. Bahmanis 140/0
3. Mamluks 130/0
4. Mughals 74/0
5. Portugal 63/0
6. Ottomans 8/50
7. Russia 50/0
8. Burgundy 49/0
9. Denmark 23/13
10. Ming 31/2
11. Spain 27/0
12. France 20/0
13. Spanish Apalnosee 9/0
14. The Land of Land 7/0
15. Gotland 0/5
16. Italy 0/4
17. Spanish Rewhannock 4/0
18. Lancastria 3/0
19. Syria 0/3
20. Queensland 3/0

Trade Fleet

1. Bahmanis 150
2. Italy 131
3. Portugal 120
4. Great Britain 104
5. Mamluks 99
6. Denmark 68
7. France 60
8. Spanish Apalnosee 52
9. Ming 46
10. Ottomans 42
11. Mughals 34
12. The Land of Land 33
13. Lancastria 33
14. Queensland 31
15. Maryland 26
16. Antarctic Francia 24
17. British Frink 22
18. Noobia 18
19. Burgundy 17
20. Mamlukean Sattisa 17

Technologies

1. France 90
2. Portugal 90
3. Bohemia 90
4. Italy 89
5. Great Britain 89
6. Spain 89
7. Mughals 89
8. Burgundy 89
9. Mamluks 88
10. Portuguese Lagouim 88
11. Maryland 88
12. Antarctic Francia 88
13. Noobia 88
14. British Kameloso 88
15. Spanish Sattisa 88
16. Lancastria 87
17. Spanish Apalnosee 87
18. Spanish Rewhannock 87
19. Ottomans 87
20. New Francia 87

 

[Johan]

Next campaign will have some severe tweaks to VC. Me and Yonaz should lose score for losing vc like that.

 

[Groogy]

"Napoleon claimed he could not be stopped because he spent 30 000 lives a month. What does that make me who spend double that amount a month?" - Tsar Fyodor II von Hapsburg

 

[Da9L]

In the Land of Paradoxes in the Fires of Great Britain, the dark lord of Britain forged in secret a master alliance to control all others.
Into this alliance he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life. One alliance to rule them all.
One by one the free lands of Universales fell to the power of his diplomacy.
But there was some who resisted.
A last alliance of French and Italians marched against the Armies of Britain and on the slopes of Burgundy they (will be fighting) fought for the freedom of Universales!

Don't miss the exciting ending next time, after the mp!

 

[Groogy]

Roland be like "They see me rolling, they hatin'"

 

[Chaingun]

My exciting finale: Select province in Declare War dialog, CTD.

At least better than Burgundy who didn't get into the game.

Some things to fix tomorrow ;_;

 

[ForzaA]

So along and thanks for all the miss-clicks!

I'm sorry, did the sound of Mamlukean coins distract you?

 

[yonaz]

Step 1 = Die with poland
Step 2 = Play single player country
Step 3 = Win

GG well played
I wanna thank Mughals, GB and the Victory Card system.

I guess something has to be done with it to make it work better.

 

[ForzaA]

In the finale mamluks and bahamanis took very bad fights with -2 penalty.

Yeah, more than I would've liked to.. It's a bit of a tradeoff.. If you can take out that leaderless 30k before it gets reinforced (that happened a few times too) it's a great deal.. You get the defensive bonus after having taken out 30k.
If you don't, well.. not exactly ideal.

Also everyone brought too many cannons, in those massive 150 vs 200 battles having more than 25 cannons doesn't serve anyone. Next time have tons of infantry for such fights.

Always a trade-off between independently useful stacks and optimal stacks in pile-ups. Given the wide range of fronts I expected I MIGHT be fighting (as it turns out, it was reasonably restricted) I opted for independence as much as possible. Dedicated mercenary infantry stacks getting rolled didn't help..

 

[Groogy]

bled groogy dry. No one used scorched earth. That "untappable max manpower" surely would have sunk.

I at most of the war stood in provinces that in total gave me 4k attrition and still managed. I don't think you understand my insane manpower recovery in combination with Polish cavalry and my mercenary build that just completely dominated the battlefield.

I was even subsidizing several of the nation's in the war effort because my soldiers were so cheap it was ridiculous. For me to build 120 000 men cost me like 750 ducats which is nothing and the maintenance was so low it wasn't noticeable.

Like I said sometimes before "Russian lives are cheap"
But in last session the Russians were cheap but led by 23% discipline high morale and 3 star generals, aided by Polish cavalry with almost 100% combat ability.

 

[ForzaA]

Thanks for playing guys, it was super fun. That salt was really funny, but well justified. Daniel really deserved one of these trophies... And he got one. From awhile back I was rooting for Mamluks, so it was satisfying to see them advance just before the end.

*bows*

Johan said you won't be playing next week, any chance of that changing? What about one after that?

I imagine GDC is the main reason not to start a campaign right next week. Also gives everyone a little time to go back to normal after the adrenalin rush and feelings of betrayal of this campaign

 

[Johan]

I copied Wiz tactics of onions, and never telling a direct lie..

Bahmanis was the one all i would stand by to the end.

next tine, i should be more ruthless. I shouldnt have let groogy survive.

 

[Da9L]

So a long and thanks for all the miss-clicks!

What actually (did not) happen

The mp was fun and a great pleasure to finally beat down the dark lord Britain!
See you at World War Wednesday!