Paradox Office Multiplayer Campaign V

[Da9L]

yeah daniel looks pretty worried. rightly so i think.

Worried? Hah the emperor isn't worried about petty Groogys. As Hoi qa I'm used to invading Russia

 

[Groogy]

Worried? Hah the emperor isn't worried about petty Groogys. As Hoi qa I'm used to invading Russia

Oh is that so

We would love to see the Germans starve to death in our empty fields.

 

[Groogy]

In the Year of our Lord 1530

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## STATS FOR MP ###
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Current Score

1. Bahmanis 1141 (+0.77)
2. Mughals 1066 (+1.03)
3. Ottomans 369 (+1.16)
4. Ming 332 (+0.90)
5. Burgundy 260 (+0.51)
6. France 206 (+0.71)
7. Austria 171 (+0.64)
8. Mecklenburg 150 (+0.51)
9. Muscovy 141 (+0.14)
10. Denmark 127 (+0.64)
11. Portugal 122 (+0.45)
12. Great Britain 115 (+0.61)
13. Spain 86 (+0.38)
14. Hungary 76 (+0.58)
15. Nassau 67 (+0.00)
16. Bohemia 55 (+0.49)
17. Magdeburg 48 (+0.19)
18. Mamluks 44 (+0.21)
19. Venice 36 (+0.00)
20. Trier 33 (+0.12)

Development

1. Ming 1224
2. Mughals 793
3. Ottomans 772
4. Mamluks 647
5. Muscovy 586
6. Bahmanis 577
7. Hungary 529
8. Spain 527
9. Great Britain 515
10. France 506
11. Austria 474
12. Burgundy 436
13. Bohemia 310
14. Portugal 285
15. Japan 278
16. Korea 202
17. Sweden 198
18. Brandenburg 198
19. Galicia–Volhynia 178
20. Milan 176

Income

1. Ming 61.26
2. Bahmanis 58.89
3. Ottomans 55.46
4. Great Britain 51.70
5. France 48.33
6. Spain 42.68
7. Muscovy 41.95
8. Mughals 41.35
9. Mamluks 37.91
10. Hungary 37.71
11. Austria 36.12
12. Burgundy 34.09
13. Denmark 22.73
14. Milan 19.91
15. Bohemia 18.07
16. Portugal 16.85
17. Korea 16.02
18. Flanders 14.70
19. Pasai 14.40
20. Japan 14.27

Max. Manpower

1. Muscovy 70,021
2. Ottomans 68,780
3. Austria 57,015
4. Great Britain 51,453
5. France 48,997
6. Mughals 47,491
7. Ming 47,391
8. Bahmanis 45,585
9. Burgundy 44,790
10. Spain 43,915
11. Mamluks 42,148
12. Hungary 37,709
13. Brandenburg 28,643
14. Denmark 26,694
15. Sweden 25,601
16. Mewar 24,859
17. Korea 23,306
18. Milan 23,208
19. Yarkand 23,121
20. Naples 22,650

Standing Army

1. Ming 82,000
2. Ottomans 80,000
3. Bahmanis 69,000
4. Muscovy 68,000
5. Mughals 67,209
6. Austria 56,733
7. France 56,000
8. Great Britain 52,000
9. Spain 51,000
10. Burgundy 48,000
11. Mamluks 45,000
12. Hungary 43,000
13. Bohemia 25,623
14. Denmark 24,000
15. Portugal 23,506
16. Korea 22,000
17. Florence 20,962
18. Milan 20,000
19. Jaunpur 20,000
20. Malacca 17,795

War Fleet

1. Ottomans 4/62
2. Ming 8/14
3. Mamluks 0/21
4. Spain 6/10
5. Venice 0/15
6. Great Britain 15/0
7. Hungary 0/13
8. Mughals 0/12
9. France 8/0
10. Naples 0/8
11. Denmark 0/8
12. Korea 0/7
13. The Papal State 0/5
14. Haasa 0/5
15. Pasai 4/0
16. Brunei 4/0
17. Mecklenburg 0/4
18. Tlemcen 0/3
19. Kilwa 3/0
20. Crimea 0/3

Trade Fleet

1. Bahmanis 31
2. Great Britain 28
3. Austria 21
4. Denmark 15
5. Burgundy 14
6. Ming 13
7. Muscovy 13
8. France 10
9. Spain 10
10. Milan 10
11. Sunda 9
12. Kilwa 9
13. Portugal 9
14. Brunei 8
15. Pasai 7
16. Khmer 6
17. Morocco 6
18. Mogadishu 6
19. Makassar 5
20. Ternate 5

Technologies

1. Austria 31
2. Livonian Order 31
3. Flanders 31
4. Bohemia 31
5. Naples 30
6. Denmark 30
7. Burgundy 30
8. France 30
9. Florence 30
10. Cologne 29
11. Pomerania 29
12. Trier 29
13. Ottomans 29
14. Great Britain 28
15. Spain 28
16. Portugal 28
17. Milan 28
18. Lancastria 28
19. Utrecht 28
20. Brandenburg 28

 

[yonaz]

did the score from first 2 sessions get wiped? looks like we started from 0 this session?

 

[Chaingun]

did the score from first 2 sessions get wiped? looks like we started from 0 this session?

Think there was a bug, yes. Will be fixed for next week though.

 

[ForzaA]

Come on Mamluks! Need to get some alliences going and then crush the Ottomans. Also someone do something about hungry and its "probe".

Minor "issue" is that I'll be away for an undetermined number of sessions at a not-yet-certain time.

As Voltaire said; "Now is not the time to make new enemies".

 

[ForzaA]

I will naturally attempt to put myself in the best possible position - but the worst position I could put the Mamluks in, is one where I've *just* made new enemies, but have not yet defeated them thoroughly, because then they WILL have their revenge on the Mamluks if/when I'm not there.

Even if the Ottomans ARE thoroughly defeated.. It would still present a major shift in European politics.. And let's be honest here, people much rather fight AIs than human players, so my new European neighbours might find the prospect of conquering Mamlukean land entirely too tempting.

Of course, there is no guarantee that the Ottomans won't annex me ANYWAY.. but eh..

 

[The Witch-King]

Unfortunately the Ottomans player was out this week so the nation was safe from attacks by players.

It would have been folly to attack me anyway. Though nothing protected me from my nation sitting and doing basically nothing for four entire early-game decades while that cruel god known as Time left it behind Many corrupt Pashas will be beheaded on my return.

 

[ForzaA]

Can't you AFKers find any subs? Surely there's new hires or interns that can be dragged into babysitting your country while you're away. Just tell them not to go apeshit every single war and not go deep in debt shipping mercs halfway across the globe on someone else's behalf and you're light years ahead of an AI already.

Well.. anyone who's worth recruiting as a sub (in the office) is generally recruited to play full time..

They could even try recruiting people from the forums. There are many experienced multiplayer players here. I wouldn't mind subbing a dev myself. I'd have to play on beta though, but I wouldn't really mind that

Nice try, but no

Have Avernite take over for you; I'm sure he won't mind.

His boss probably would, though...

 

[Johan]

Well.. anyone who's worth recruiting as a sub (in the office) is generally recruited to play full time...

not entirely true..

You *COULD* try to ask Olle, Henrik F, Mario?

 

[DDRJake]

This something I don't understand. Why didn't Portugal catch Cape Verde and jumping islands early and with its bonus to colonial range blocked Spain from colonizing?

Antagonizing your bigger, stronger, human-controled neighbour without sufficient backup would be a foolhardy thing to do.

 

[Groogy]

Considering the state of the new world perhaps Wiz would be better served by taking on the continent.

If you look in the stream and compare the map with the map provided here it looks like a big chunk of the map was cut out. Though I am only guessing since I don't have access to the save so I can't cheat by checking up on the RNW

 

[Groogy]

Well I think there is more land to the west than only the white rectangle, it has just been cropped out.

 

[Chaingun]

This something I don't understand. Why didn't Portugal catch Cape Verde and jumping islands early and with its bonus to colonial range blocked Spain from colonizing?

Made an agreement with Spain. It's the first time I'm even playing a colonizer (because I usually avoid playing naval nations as a personal preference), so I stick to the old world because it's basically new to me anyway.

As for allying with France, the question was certainly on the table, but it was a high risk option. I can't really take on that kind of risks when not being familiar with colonizers. It would also quite possibly mean war with Spain, which would cost an enormous amount of money at a phase of the game where it is in short supply.

 

[Groogy]

I would say Trin Tragula is pretty experienced yes.

 

[Chaingun]

Trin who plays Spain has a single player background AFAIK, so although he has played the game much more he's new to MP politics.

These games are never about what's fair. Last game I quickly got partitioned 4 versus 1 by DDRJake & his QA friends when I played Timurids.

 

[Chaingun]

Well, just take into account that you have bargaining power with France (you can promise to help out BBB on condition of taking 3-4 colonies from Spain - Cape Verde and 2 provinces in the new world are most important) and Spain. You can use this threat to take concessions from Spain. Austria as a guarantor currently works in your favor.

Will see what happens, will most likely not make any radical changes the closest years. But who knows how the world looks in a century from now. Keep in mind, I try to avoid being too dishonorable/backstabbing simply due to that having a reputation as a player worth being allied to is advantageous in the office meta game.

Also, please, capture gold in Kilwa and Morocco

Thanks for eye opener, yeah will probably do.

 

[Chaingun]

Sarcasm? Sorry for an obvious advice )

Not sarcasm. Wasn't aware there was one in Morocco, anyway.

To me it seems more like him being shafted aside, since he can only try to have Spain as an ally or work actively towards his destruction. No middle ground there imo.

I *think* indeed this is what would happen. Playing some sort of middle ground would be difficult given the nature of the Portugese-Spanish border, and it would probably require extremely strong diplomatic skills to get away with it.

 

[ForzaA]

Thanks for eye opener, yeah will probably do.

:ahem:

 

[Chaingun]

:ahem:

Well, Morocco was on my target list, didn't know about the gold mine.