Paradox Office Multiplayer Campaign V

[Wizzington]

(Very) new players. There's a very high variance in skill in these MP games.

Yeah, not everyone playing is good at the game.

 

[Chaingun]

@SknerusMck: Oh. AI stands for "artificial intelligence", which is used as a casual term for the computer opponents, even though it's actually an abbreviation. So a sentence like "The AIs destroyed my country" means "The computer players destroyed my country".

 

[Johan]

I presume DDRJake wasn't allowed to play as he would do a WC on you all, (even if you gave him a OPM to be) and you wanted a more fair game?

Nah.. No worries.. He had no trophy last campaign.

 

[Wizzington]

Ah, that'd explain it.


Ha, I don't think he fully understands how "backstabbing" works.


Around how many men did he have exiled? I recall both exiled armies were at least double digits.


Did his exiled armies end up sinking in the channel?

Me and Burgundy were supposed to ally day 1, so even if he hadn't explicitly told me he was backstabbing me I would've figured it out immediately.

France had 40k troops exiled. They ended up disbanding their army after I sank their fleet.

 

[Chaingun]

Haha. Little and big I look extremely similar on my screen

 

[Wizzington]

Am I wrong, or are de Anjou the rulers of England? Wiz, what are you up to? PU over France?

I got a Women in History event putting Margaret of Anjou (Henry the Best's wife) in charge. She died and now I'm ruled by a Lancaster again.

 

[Wizzington]

@Wiz you will admit that part of your enormous victory is due to big big big luck right?

It wasn't really an 'enormous' victory, but yes, part of it was down to luck. I credit my stalwart Iberian allies over all other factors though.

 

[Wizzington]

Wiz I am really positive that your goal shouldn't be having most points but rather releasing Gotland and giving it all your provinces, that's a pretty realistic and historical concept.
PS I wish in next eu4 Developer Game, (firstly that another one is done and secondly) you let us pick who will play which nation so you get to play Byzantium and show us why we shouldn't be so grumpy to you all the time and stop the endless Byzantium threads with the same topic same arguments (but different person posting) .

If given Byzantium, I assure you that I would do my utmost to play it historically.

 

[Chaingun]

My guess is MP vs SP balance for Buddhist countries are entirely different beasts (yes, I played Buddhist last office campaign). This is since other human players have the potential to constrain your expansion in a well populated MP campaign more than karma or paper mana do.

 

[Johan]

Will today's MP be played with updated ZoC?

Not sure when the last mp stable was made last week, but i think zoc changes was made afterwards.

 

[LittleFido]

The stable branch for this week does not have the updated ZoC rules.

 

[DDRJake]

I've been looking forward to this all week, it starts in about an hour, right?

It does indeed. 15:00 CEST

www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive

 

[Groogy]

Before the war I already knew what the coalition wanted and was already offering it to them before the war had even started to Hungary but was turned down. Ottomans declared the war still and when I offered my unconditional surrender he ignored it and kept occupying my stuff in order to devastate me completely so I can not turn around in the future. (Why fight a war you can't win when you can recover instead and come back later). So I decided I had better stuff to do during my work hours and left.

And yes I've already proposed a mechanic for how to let players surrender unconditionally but at the same time saving their nation from hostile nation ruining.

 

[Groogy]

Guys will the new random new world be free for those with Conquest of Paradise? Surely it's not part of the expansion....?

Its an update for the Random New world in Conquest of Paradise so yes it requires you to own Conquest of Paradise and you will get it if you own Conquest of Paradise

 

[LittleFido]

Anno Domine 1468 - 1499

The known world​

History in the making (twitch VoD)

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## STATS FOR MP ###
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Current Score

1. Ottomans 424 (+0.89)
2. Ming 402 (+0.84)
3. Austria 296 (+0.69)
4. Timurids 287 (+0.74)
5. Bahmanis 247 (+0.64)
6. Hungary 215 (+0.31)
7. France 192 (+0.59)
8. Aragon 142 (+0.00)
9. Mamluks 118 (+0.06)
10. England 118 (+0.19)
11. Verden 101 (+0.49)
12. Bohemia 99 (+0.34)
13. Burgundy 72 (+0.35)
14. Portugal 67 (+0.00)
15. Muscovy 63 (+0.00)
16. Nassau 63 (+0.44)
17. Castile 62 (+0.05)
18. Frankfurt 57 (+0.00)
19. Lithuania 45 (+0.00)
20. Cleves 40 (+0.00)

Development

1. Ming 1201
2. Ottomans 671
3. Timurids 620
4. France 492
5. England 429
6. Mamluks 395
7. Muscovy 382
8. Hungary 375
9. Bahmanis 369
10. Austria 317
11. Burgundy 298
12. Lithuania 287
13. Castile 285
14. Delhi 240
15. Bohemia 225
16. Brandenburg 225
17. Aragon 197
18. Ayutthaya 192
19. Japan 175
20. Milan 174

Income

1. Ming 52.46
2. Ottomans 43.10
3. England 37.87
4. Bahmanis 36.64
5. France 31.58
6. Austria 29.85
7. Hungary 29.60
8. Timurids 27.61
9. Castile 24.46
10. Muscovy 22.28
11. Novgorod 19.60
12. Burgundy 19.09
13. Bohemia 18.53
14. Mamluks 18.43
15. Delhi 15.12
16. Milan 15.03
17. Mutapa 14.96
18. Brandenburg 14.93
19. Aragon 14.11
20. Morocco 13.87

Max. Manpower

1. Austria 53,253
2. Ottomans 52,339
3. Timurids 47,989
4. England 46,992
5. France 42,461
6. Ming 41,337
7. Muscovy 36,430
8. Castile 29,233
9. Bahmanis 28,791
10. Mamluks 28,595
11. Burgundy 26,893
12. Bohemia 24,847
13. Uzbek 24,642
14. Hungary 24,563
15. Aragon 23,977
16. Naples 23,594
17. Yarkand 21,423
18. Brandenburg 21,177
19. Mewar 20,927
20. Sweden 20,856

Standing Army

1. Ming 69,000
2. Ottomans 68,993
3. Austria 58,000
4. Timurids 46,222
5. France 44,000
6. England 43,000
7. Bahmanis 43,000
8. Mamluks 40,000
9. Castile 38,000
10. Burgundy 36,000
11. Hungary 30,000
12. Muscovy 25,910
13. Brandenburg 24,000
14. Bohemia 22,000
15. Uzbek 22,000
16. Portugal 20,000
17. Denmark 19,000
18. Malacca 18,000
19. Novgorod 17,000
20. Mutapa 17,000

War Fleet

1. Ottomans 0/54
2. Ming 8/14
3. Mamluks 0/21
4. Venice 0/15
5. Hungary 0/13
6. Timurids 0/12
7. England 10/0
8. Genoa 0/9
9. Korea 0/7
10. Naples 0/5
11. Aragon 0/5
12. France 4/0
13. Riga 0/4
14. Dai Viet 0/4
15. Japan 0/4
16. Ayutthaya 4/0
17. Mecklenburg 0/4
18. Haasa 0/3
19. Castile 3/0
20. Brunei 3/0

Trade Fleet

1. England 16
2. Ming 13
3. Genoa 10
4. Malacca 10
5. Pasai 10
6. Portugal 9
7. Kilwa 9
8. Ayutthaya 8
9. Jolof 8
10. Sunda 7
11. Scotland 7
12. Brunei 7
13. Austria 6
14. Ceylon 6
15. Novgorod 6
16. Morocco 6
17. Mogadishu 6
18. Bahmanis 5
19. Burgundy 5
20. Ternate 5

Technologies

1. Burgundy 23
2. Bohemia 23
3. Brabant 23
4. Venice 23
5. Denmark 23
6. Naples 23
7. Flanders 23
8. Genoa 22
9. Cleves 22
10. Brunswick 22
11. Austria 22
12. England 22
13. Livonian Order 22
14. The Papal State 22
15. France 22
16. Ottomans 21
17. Galicia–Volhynia 21
18. The Palatinate 21
19. Scotland 21
20. Brandenburg 21

Sorry Groogy ;___;

 

[Groogy]

I think by the end of the next session that alliance will have dissolved.

Well of course. Ottomans have exploited that alliance to the max now and is the only one that gained from it. He has no interest in keeping the alliance as his interests conflicts with Hungary who want the cossack provinces he just took.

Ottomans Gg and central Europe lost because they got tricked by an old guy in an alley with candy.

 

[Groogy]

Well, somebody will be coming late and tired to the office tomorrow

EDIT: Wait, you are at home right? Don't tell me you guys are sill working till this late?!

Pff puny mortal think I need sleep

 

[The Witch-King]

Well of course. Ottomans have exploited that alliance to the max now and is the only one that gained from it. He has no interest in keeping the alliance as his interests conflicts with Hungary who want the cossack provinces he just took.

That is just desperate propaganda and you know it

 

[DDRJake]

Also does anybody know whether or not it actually is possible for a secret Denmark country to be in the new world?

What could it all mean?

 

[LittleFido]

: I believe Paradox has a house rule where a nation is "safe" for like 2 or so sessions.

One session, if the player has valid reasons for skipping the sessions (sickness, forced work on another project)
The exact rule is that players are not allowed to declare war on a nation belonging to a player that is missing for a valid reasons. If declared upon by the players AI they are fair game.
If the AI is called into a war as a secondary partner white peace should be declared as soon as possible.

I wonder whether unconditional surrender will be added or not and whether poor groogy will find another nations to play MP continuously.

Unconditional Surrender will most likely be added for a later version of the game.
Groogy will probably take over Muscovy from Gradus.