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Currently have a "victorycard" cheat that add them to SP. AI currently ignores them when present but we could change that. However, I suspect competing versus the AI in score as a major as an experienced player would be a rather easy endevour...

That is good to know. I'm pretty terrible, so I'm not sure it matters.
 

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Jeez look at that Mameluke Africa, Iberians better watch out, he might come for Morocco soon enough

I also really hope Wiz has a good diplomatic plan against France, even if Wiz has gained more land he just gave France time to fill out their National Ideas and create those unstoppable space marines, having twice the numbers might not be enough anymore, he will probably need both Spain and Burgundy to join him.
 
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Yeah, we're currently in a sort of enforced peace because nobody wants to start a world war without knowing they have a good shot at winning. It won't last forever.

That's one of the problems with EU4 MP.

It ALWAYS results in a world war. Even when it should be a regional conflict, players from all over nearly always jump in.

Gotta make backstabbing and switching stances more appealing, since those victory cards don't seem to do the trick. Maybe have the V cards offer a real tangible benefit? Nationalism (increased morale, trade, yada yooda?)
 
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I do like the introduction of victory cards as often in multiplayer games there are great lengths of cold wars, no one wanting to declare as it would be MAD (Mutually assured destruction) especially in Europe. So with the victory cards, it will encourage players to backstab their allies, and join the opposite side which makes one side more likely to win rather than everyone losing all their MP to settle for a white peace.
 
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Currently have a "victorycard" cheat that add them to SP. AI currently ignores them when present but we could change that. However, I suspect competing versus the AI in score as a major as an experienced player would be a rather easy endevour...

Perhaps so, but it would give us an incentive to back-stab our allies once we've settled into a proper power block. Also, cheats can't be used when in ironman :/
 

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France is rising from the ashes!
Go go go BBB.
 

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I love seeing all those huge Asian juggernauts build up, can't wait until they start fighting. I'm surprised Johan hasn't gone further into India but I assume the Bahmanis player would react poorly to that...

I should probably watch the streams some time but Tuesday afternoons are just awful timing for me :)
 

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France is rising from the ashes!
Go go go BBB.
France didn't really do anything.
I love seeing all those huge Asian juggernauts build up, can't wait until they start fighting. I'm surprised Johan hasn't gone further into India but I assume the Bahmanis player would react poorly to that...
That would be because Johan was not playing this time.



Bohemia, Brandenburg, Mughals, Korea, Japan, and Sweden players were out this week. This was the second week Sweden was out (not counting the cancelled session last week), so their lands were fair play.

-Before the game started, a treaty was signed. The Treaty of Vienna. Spain would cede Sardinia to France. France would cede Tarragona to Spain. All the signatories would agree to avoid any war against each other and their allies for this session. And Gotland would be free. Signed by Austria, France, Spain, Great Britain, Burgundy, Portugal, Denmark, and Muscovy.
-The France-Spain transfer occured. The war to liberate Gotland happened, where Denmark took southern Sweden and Great Britain took southern Norway.
-But tension rose as Denmark took Gotland and started coring it.... but it was all part of the plan of adding Gotland into the HRE.
-After that, not much happened. Ottomans ate around the Black Sea.
-Hungary ate what remained of Lithuania and ate most of Galicia-Volhynia. Had to release Crimea as vassal due to too much overextension and not enough points to core. Might not sit well with Ottomans as that Crimea has a lot cores owned by Ottomans.
-Burgundy ate into the more of the Low Countries.
-Bahmanis ate more of India and into SEA.
-Portugal ate more of Morocco and colonized his way to Indonesia. Player crashed, and the the AI proceeded to have the nation overrun by pretenders.
-Spain colonized more. Integrated Naples.
-League War was declared by Great Britain, only to have peace signed immediately.
-Muscovy vassalized Novgorod. Formed Russia. Ate into Sweden.
-Gotland was made into an Elector.
-Ulm sent troops to the Golden Horde's lands
-Second round of victory cards. Ottomans now have a victory card on Hungary for Serbia (first on Syria). Portugal got their second card on Spain. Spain got it on France (first on Portugal). Great Britain on Burgundy (first on Burgundy and France). Burgundy on France (first also on France). France mainly on Milan (first on Great Britain). Hungary on Austria (first also on Austria). Austria on Hungary (first on Burgundy).
 
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It ALWAYS results in a world war. Even when it should be a regional conflict, players from all over nearly always jump in.

There's no real mechanical penalty for fighting wars on the other side of the world, despite the fact that the AI already considers distance as a significant factor in willingness to wage war.

Perhaps an event with a MTTH based on having exiled units, which eventually causes the units to transform to a rebel stack and begin relocating to the original homeland? Sort of a representation of the rebellion of the victorious Roman legions?

Alternately, perhaps a scaling factor on war exhaustion based on distance?
 
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There's no real mechanical penalty for fighting wars on the other side of the world, despite the fact that the AI already considers distance as a significant factor in willingness to wage war.

Perhaps an event with a MTTH based on having exiled units, which eventually causes the units to transform to a rebel stack and begin relocating to the original homeland? Sort of a representation of the rebellion of the victorious Roman legions?

Alternately, perhaps a scaling factor on war exhaustion based on distance?

A reduced reinforcement rate would make sense.
 
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Will Groogy spread Putinist Russia across the Europe and avenge his failure of Lithuania? Will Wiz conquer the rest of Scandinavia and convert to glorious Swedish. Will Johan and Bahmanis fight over India? Will Portugal deal with his rebels and his 1k debt? Will Ottoman remove or be removed? Will Austria and Hungry continue their coexist or turn against each other? Some many things to happen, and many more to come to true. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?members/groogy.162573/
 

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France didn't really do anything.
That would be because Johan was not playing this time.



Bohemia, Brandenburg, Mughals, Korea, Japan, and Sweden players were out this week. This was the second week Sweden was out (not counting the cancelled session last week), so their lands were fair play.

-Before the game started, a treaty was signed. The Treaty of Vienna. Spain would cede Sardinia to France. France would cede Tarragona to Spain. All the signatories would agree to avoid any war against each other and their allies for this session. And Gotland would be free. Signed by Austria, France, Spain, Great Britain, Burgundy, Portugal, Denmark, and Muscovy.
-The France-Spain transfer occured. The war to liberate Gotland happened, where Denmark took southern Sweden and Great Britain took southern Norway.
-But tension rose as Denmark took Gotland and started coring it.... but it was all part of the plan of adding Gotland into the HRE.
-After that, not much happened. Ottomans ate around the Black Sea.
-Hungary ate what remained of Lithuania and ate most of Galicia-Volhynia. Had to release Crimea as vassal due to too much overextension and not enough points to core. Might not sit well with Ottomans as that Crimea has a lot cores owned by Ottomans.
-Burgundy ate into the more of the Low Countries.
-Bahmanis ate more of India and into SEA.
-Portugal ate more of Morocco and colonized his way to Indonesia. Player crashed, and the the AI proceeded to have the nation overrun by pretenders.
-Spain colonized more. Integrated Naples.
-League War was declared by Great Britain, only to have peace signed immediately.
-Muscovy vassalized Novgorod. Formed Russia. Ate into Sweden.
-Gotland was made into an Elector.
-Ulm sent troops to the Golden Horde's lands
-Second round of victory cards. Ottomans now have a victory card on Hungary for Serbia (first on Syria). Portugal got their second card on Spain. Spain got it on France (first on Portugal). Great Britain on Burgundy (first on Burgundy and France). Burgundy on France (first also on France). France mainly on Milan (first on Great Britain). Hungary on Austria (first also on Austria). Austria on Hungary (first on Burgundy).
And Bahmanis got their second card near Mughal territory. The Kutch region, iirc.
 
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Царство Русcкое

The Great Tsar Pavel I of Russia by the grace of God has proclaimed that by his right given to him by our Lord that the unlawfully seizure of the land known as Lithuania shall not go without repercussions and as rightful ruler over the great city of Vilnus we shall deliver the punishment as demanded by its citizens. His Majesty shall not rest until this in-justice is undone and the Lithuanian people have been united under the loving embrace of the Tsar.

God Bless the Rus', the Finns and the Lithuanians as God smiles upon you this day. As the Russian Soldiers prepare to die for the justice that has been denied for too long the Hungarian cowards shall hide behind their Carpathian mountains as doom falls upon their wretched nation.

- Pavel I Rurikovich, Tsar and Grand Knijaz of All Rus' and Finns, Zaschitnik of Litva and Liflyandiya, Vladika vseja Pribaltiki.

Земля будет дрожать, когда наши войска промаршируют по улицам ваших столиц!
 
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I wonder what the alliances will be...
BBB+Burgundy+Austria+Hungary+Mamluks vs GB+Russia+Ottomans+Castille?
What do you think?

[Groogy probably doesn't want to ally with WitchKing, but the partition of Hungary between them seems legit for me ;)]
 

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I hope for more than 2 blocs.
 

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IIRC Mughals and Bahmanis have VC on each other.