Paradox Office Multiplayer Campaign V

[Chaingun]

Well, just take into account that you have bargaining power with France (you can promise to help out BBB on condition of taking 3-4 colonies from Spain - Cape Verde and 2 provinces in the new world are most important) and Spain. You can use this threat to take concessions from Spain. Austria as a guarantor currently works in your favor.

Will see what happens, will most likely not make any radical changes the closest years. But who knows how the world looks in a century from now. Keep in mind, I try to avoid being too dishonorable/backstabbing simply due to that having a reputation as a player worth being allied to is advantageous in the office meta game.

Also, please, capture gold in Kilwa and Morocco

Thanks for eye opener, yeah will probably do.

 

[Sunspawn]

Well, you can do the historical division of New World to Spain and Asian/East African trade company stuff to you.

 

[Gringovoir]

Will see what happens, will most likely not make any radical changes the closest years. But who knows how the world looks in a century from now. Keep in mind, I try to avoid being too dishonorable/backstabbing simply due to that having a reputation as a player worth being allied to is advantageous in the office meta game.

Thanks for eye opener, yeah will probably do.

Sarcasm? Sorry for an obvious advice )

I understand the reputation thing. Still you can trade your bargaining power openly. England is locked in alliance with Castille in my opinion. It would also be difficult for France to turn on Burgundy. Makes Portugal uniquely positioned as a median voter/country.

 

[Sunspawn]

Sarcasm? Sorry for an obvious advice )

I understand the reputation thing. Still you can trade your bargaining power openly. England is locked in alliance with Castille in my opinion. It would also be difficult for France to turn on Burgundy. Makes Portugal uniquely positioned as a median voter/country.

To me it seems more like him being shafted aside, since he can only try to have Spain as an ally or work actively towards his destruction. No middle ground there imo.

 

[Chaingun]

Sarcasm? Sorry for an obvious advice )

Not sarcasm. Wasn't aware there was one in Morocco, anyway.

To me it seems more like him being shafted aside, since he can only try to have Spain as an ally or work actively towards his destruction. No middle ground there imo.

I *think* indeed this is what would happen. Playing some sort of middle ground would be difficult given the nature of the Portugese-Spanish border, and it would probably require extremely strong diplomatic skills to get away with it.

 

[Gringovoir]

I *think* in indeed this is what would happen. Playing some sort of middle ground would be difficult given the nature of the Portugese-Spanish border, and it would probably require extremely strong diplomatic skills to get away with it.

In fact, it might be the only ground for you. Spain does have a victory card on you. As a Spain player, I would turn on you as England won't protect you. It seems wise to me to, at least, ally both France and Castille as a precaution. I don't want to push you for anything, but you know just some food for thought. Although, let's face it - last session was kinda boring )

 

[Sunspawn]

^

Man speaks sense.

 

[ForzaA]

Thanks for eye opener, yeah will probably do.

:ahem:

 

[Chaingun]

:ahem:

Well, Morocco was on my target list, didn't know about the gold mine.

 

[Gringovoir]

Well, Morocco was on my target list, didn't know about the gold mine.

Seems like ForzaA wants Kilwa gold for himself ) But he did get one mine in Kaffa already (and was there another one in Ethiopia?) )

 

[Sunspawn]

I think that ForzaA will get to Kilwa before you chain, so I'd suggest going for Malacca+Moluccas instead.

 

[Chaingun]

Yeah just talked to him, seems indeed there's no point contesting for Kilwa

 

[Sunspawn]

Unless you can pile on him while(and if) he is getting the stuffing beaten out of him by Ottomans if that player comes back and manages to diplo himself a safe western front.

 

[ragingrondo12]

Trin who plays Spain has a single player background AFAIK, so although he has played the game much more he's new to MP politics.

These games are never about what's fair. Last game I quickly got partitioned 4 versus 1 by DDRJake & his QA friends when I played Timurids.

DDR!!!!!

 

[Gringovoir]

Yeah just talked to him, seems indeed there's no point contesting for Kilwa

You'll certainly shpuld get faster to the southern gold of KIlwa. I am not sure ForzaA will even have the range

 

[hashinshin]

Every time I see your guys' politics I'm reminded of this:

 

[happymix91]

Disaster!

 

[Groogy]

Yeah it was gearing up for world war in the game even, why did it have to break

 

[Wizzington]

Refusing all open hands reached out to him, the Austrian Emperor has decided that it is in his best interest to see the French-Burgundian alliance conquer everything around them. While the English Queen does not understand what particular bout of Habsburg madness prompted this, she promises to fight for her allies and against the mad world domination plans of the French Kings. She salutes the stalwart Russians, who, despite this conflict taking place in a distant land, has the wisdom and foresight to know what happens if the French are permitted free reign.

When they came for England, he did not, as the rest of the world, sit quiet and cowed by French aggression.

When they came for England, Russia spoke up.

 

[FieldMedic]

Wiz is basically Churchill