Paradox Office Multiplayer Campaign V

[matk]

Free Gotland!

The new random new world looks interesting in this session and should provide some interesting incentives for conflict in Europe down the line. How long will GB and Spain persist in friendship?

 

[Magnificent Genius]

I have two things to say.

One, I hope victory cards are in single player, because awesome.

Two, bordergore CB, please.

 

[Lord_P]

One, I hope victory cards are in single player, because awesome.

If they give them to the AI, I will learn modding to mod them out.

 

[Groogy]

In the Year of our Lord 1530

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## STATS FOR MP ###
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Current Score

1. Bahmanis 1141 (+0.77)
2. Mughals 1066 (+1.03)
3. Ottomans 369 (+1.16)
4. Ming 332 (+0.90)
5. Burgundy 260 (+0.51)
6. France 206 (+0.71)
7. Austria 171 (+0.64)
8. Mecklenburg 150 (+0.51)
9. Muscovy 141 (+0.14)
10. Denmark 127 (+0.64)
11. Portugal 122 (+0.45)
12. Great Britain 115 (+0.61)
13. Spain 86 (+0.38)
14. Hungary 76 (+0.58)
15. Nassau 67 (+0.00)
16. Bohemia 55 (+0.49)
17. Magdeburg 48 (+0.19)
18. Mamluks 44 (+0.21)
19. Venice 36 (+0.00)
20. Trier 33 (+0.12)

Development

1. Ming 1224
2. Mughals 793
3. Ottomans 772
4. Mamluks 647
5. Muscovy 586
6. Bahmanis 577
7. Hungary 529
8. Spain 527
9. Great Britain 515
10. France 506
11. Austria 474
12. Burgundy 436
13. Bohemia 310
14. Portugal 285
15. Japan 278
16. Korea 202
17. Sweden 198
18. Brandenburg 198
19. Galicia–Volhynia 178
20. Milan 176

Income

1. Ming 61.26
2. Bahmanis 58.89
3. Ottomans 55.46
4. Great Britain 51.70
5. France 48.33
6. Spain 42.68
7. Muscovy 41.95
8. Mughals 41.35
9. Mamluks 37.91
10. Hungary 37.71
11. Austria 36.12
12. Burgundy 34.09
13. Denmark 22.73
14. Milan 19.91
15. Bohemia 18.07
16. Portugal 16.85
17. Korea 16.02
18. Flanders 14.70
19. Pasai 14.40
20. Japan 14.27

Max. Manpower

1. Muscovy 70,021
2. Ottomans 68,780
3. Austria 57,015
4. Great Britain 51,453
5. France 48,997
6. Mughals 47,491
7. Ming 47,391
8. Bahmanis 45,585
9. Burgundy 44,790
10. Spain 43,915
11. Mamluks 42,148
12. Hungary 37,709
13. Brandenburg 28,643
14. Denmark 26,694
15. Sweden 25,601
16. Mewar 24,859
17. Korea 23,306
18. Milan 23,208
19. Yarkand 23,121
20. Naples 22,650

Standing Army

1. Ming 82,000
2. Ottomans 80,000
3. Bahmanis 69,000
4. Muscovy 68,000
5. Mughals 67,209
6. Austria 56,733
7. France 56,000
8. Great Britain 52,000
9. Spain 51,000
10. Burgundy 48,000
11. Mamluks 45,000
12. Hungary 43,000
13. Bohemia 25,623
14. Denmark 24,000
15. Portugal 23,506
16. Korea 22,000
17. Florence 20,962
18. Milan 20,000
19. Jaunpur 20,000
20. Malacca 17,795

War Fleet

1. Ottomans 4/62
2. Ming 8/14
3. Mamluks 0/21
4. Spain 6/10
5. Venice 0/15
6. Great Britain 15/0
7. Hungary 0/13
8. Mughals 0/12
9. France 8/0
10. Naples 0/8
11. Denmark 0/8
12. Korea 0/7
13. The Papal State 0/5
14. Haasa 0/5
15. Pasai 4/0
16. Brunei 4/0
17. Mecklenburg 0/4
18. Tlemcen 0/3
19. Kilwa 3/0
20. Crimea 0/3

Trade Fleet

1. Bahmanis 31
2. Great Britain 28
3. Austria 21
4. Denmark 15
5. Burgundy 14
6. Ming 13
7. Muscovy 13
8. France 10
9. Spain 10
10. Milan 10
11. Sunda 9
12. Kilwa 9
13. Portugal 9
14. Brunei 8
15. Pasai 7
16. Khmer 6
17. Morocco 6
18. Mogadishu 6
19. Makassar 5
20. Ternate 5

Technologies

1. Austria 31
2. Livonian Order 31
3. Flanders 31
4. Bohemia 31
5. Naples 30
6. Denmark 30
7. Burgundy 30
8. France 30
9. Florence 30
10. Cologne 29
11. Pomerania 29
12. Trier 29
13. Ottomans 29
14. Great Britain 28
15. Spain 28
16. Portugal 28
17. Milan 28
18. Lancastria 28
19. Utrecht 28
20. Brandenburg 28

 

[yonaz]

did the score from first 2 sessions get wiped? looks like we started from 0 this session?

 

[hashinshin]

Seeing the Mughals development is really starting to make me believe they were way overbuffed. Strong claims + no need to reform government were massive buffs, and when you combo strong claims with their -25% core creation and the 1000+ development in india alone, the 450 development they start with... the Mughals start to look absolutely insane.

Perhaps, especially since this is a horde focused expansion, we can finally give Persia/Qara Qonyunlu/Aq Qoyunlu som events like the Manchu have so Persia will actually form? The entire region really is very bare bones on flavor. Persia especially is impossibly weak, even with their 31 development from the DHEs they can't even conceive of dreaming of fighting the Ottomans.

Worse yet for multiplayer the Timurids are SO FAR to the east that there would be very little players could do to prevent their growth. Their ideas are WAY more powerful than any Indian nation. I fear Timurids in multiplayer will become the new Ming, gaining obscene development and power with really nothing the players can do to stop it before it's already too late. The Ottomans push the boundaries on what is accepting but the Mughals seem to just be breaking it.

As a side note: Can we buff Muslim Cavalry? As many people have noted Muslim nations almost ALL have cavalry ideas, yet their cavalry units themselves leave a lot to be desired. I think if you buffed the Muslim cavalry by 1 unit pip at every level they'd be performing and playing more how they should be. That'd still leave them at 19 to western's 21 at tech 28. I don't think there's a single tech where Muslim cavalry are the best in the world which seems somewhat nonsense.

 

[Chaingun]

did the score from first 2 sessions get wiped? looks like we started from 0 this session?

Think there was a bug, yes. Will be fixed for next week though.

 

[grandad1982]

Come on Mamluks! Need to get some alliences going and then crush the Ottomans. Also someone do something about hungry and its "probe".

 

[Golladan]

Come on Mamluks! Need to get some alliences going and then crush the Ottomans. Also someone do something about hungry and its "probe".

Unfortunately the Ottomans player was out this week so the nation was safe from attacks by players.

 

[Golladan]

So a brief rundown, from memory.

Austria's heir died, shortly followed by Maria Theresa. So Austria ended up in a union under Hungary. France did not contest. Austria gained independence shortly after and regained Emperor title.
Denmark is an elector.
Sweden player was out. AI Sweden ate Gotland. @DDRJake didn't want to show Gotland's buffed ideas.
So was Ottoman. The Ottoman-Austria-Hungary alliance block is gone.
Brandenburg got a bit too greedy, and got destroyed by a coalition. Forced to spit out Pomerania. Then lost Danzig (to rebels I think).
Last I saw, Muscovy and Hungary were allies.
Bahmanis has been eating up India.
Timurids formed Mughals
Mamluks claimed the Eastern Sahara.
Colonization has been slowly progressing.
England ate Scotland and formed GB.
Western Europe has been relatively peaceful due to Austria's threat to back whoever gets attacked.

As for victory cards. Ottomans still have theirs on Syria (Mamluk march). Hungary has one on Austria Proper. Muscovy has one on some Lithuanian lands that Hungary ate near the end. Austria has one on Burgundy. Burgundy has one on France. France has one on the Gascone area (England's). England has one on the area around Picardie (France's and Burgundy's). Castile has one on Portugal.

The Dhimmi faction makes religious conversion on the province impossible. But a very large tax boost on the province.
Hordes get -10% AE Impact on their traditions.

Will the players finally break the peace and start going after those victory cards?

 

[Republic of Mercury]

Good recap

Might want to mention that Muscovy is guaranteeing Danzig. Lovely way to annoy everyone in the vicinity, especially Sweden and Brandenburg, who are currently the closest players to Danzig.

 

[TheLetterZ]

Free Gotland!

We on it.

 

[Lateralus]

One small request: These office multiplayer session on twitch are awesome, but they are archived nowhere (except for the last episode on twitch, which is a pain). Would it be possible to make all the multiplayer streams available on youtube as well (https://www.youtube.com/user/ParadoxExtra for example) so we can enjoy DDRJake-commented multiplayer at our leisure?

 

[Sunspawn]

One small request: These office multiplayer session on twitch are awesome, but they are archived nowhere (except for the last episode on twitch, which is a pain). Would it be possible to make all the multiplayer streams available on youtube as well (https://www.youtube.com/user/ParadoxExtra for example) so we can enjoy DDRJake-commented multiplayer at our leisure?

I want to give more than one Agree.

 

[FieldMedic]

Map needs more Red. Come on Wiz!

 

[oskar-kar]

One small request: These office multiplayer session on twitch are awesome, but they are archived nowhere (except for the last episode on twitch, which is a pain). Would it be possible to make all the multiplayer streams available on youtube as well (https://www.youtube.com/user/ParadoxExtra for example) so we can enjoy DDRJake-commented multiplayer at our leisure?

You can go to Paradox Interactive Twitch profile and then in "Broadcasts" you have every Paradox stream (from around 2011 till today) so I think that there is no point in uploading it to YouTube.

 

[Sunspawn]

You can go to Paradox Interactive Twitch profile and then in "Broadcasts" you have every Paradox stream (from around 2011 till today) so I think that there is no point in uploading it to YouTube.

YT is more commonly-used and thus more accessible for the average internet person.

 

[kontinos]

It feels like a bad-baaad Austria playthrough. They cant go West or East, the South is too poor and Spain is in between, and the north is their playground ad hoc, only if they maintain emperorship, which is what keeps them in the game. Sad.

 

[Sunspawn]

It feels like a bad-baaad Austria playthrough. They cant go West or East, the South is too poor and Spain is in between, and the north is their playground ad hoc, only if they maintain emperorship, which is what keeps them in the game. Sad.

Austria could also eat Italy. He already has most of the Venetian provinces, grabbing Venezia and Tuscany would give him a nice boost to development. And depending on Milan's alliances, he could take a bite.

 

[ForzaA]

Come on Mamluks! Need to get some alliences going and then crush the Ottomans. Also someone do something about hungry and its "probe".

Minor "issue" is that I'll be away for an undetermined number of sessions at a not-yet-certain time.

As Voltaire said; "Now is not the time to make new enemies".