Paradox Office Multiplayer Campaign V

[Rooz]

Can somebody explain it here then?

There are 3 neighbouring provinces of Kappa (I believe it's Milan itself), Kippa and Keepo, with the rest of the provinces also named after the twitch emotes

 

[blackchoas]

Anno Domine 1468 - 1499
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The known world​

History in the making (twitch VoD)

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## STATS FOR MP ###
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Current Score

1. Ottomans 424 (+0.89)
2. Ming 402 (+0.84)
3. Austria 296 (+0.69)
4. Timurids 287 (+0.74)
5. Bahmanis 247 (+0.64)
6. Hungary 215 (+0.31)
7. France 192 (+0.59)
8. Aragon 142 (+0.00)
9. Mamluks 118 (+0.06)
10. England 118 (+0.19)
11. Verden 101 (+0.49)
12. Bohemia 99 (+0.34)
13. Burgundy 72 (+0.35)
14. Portugal 67 (+0.00)
15. Muscovy 63 (+0.00)
16. Nassau 63 (+0.44)
17. Castile 62 (+0.05)
18. Frankfurt 57 (+0.00)
19. Lithuania 45 (+0.00)
20. Cleves 40 (+0.00)

Development

1. Ming 1201
2. Ottomans 671
3. Timurids 620
4. France 492
5. England 429
6. Mamluks 395
7. Muscovy 382
8. Hungary 375
9. Bahmanis 369
10. Austria 317
11. Burgundy 298
12. Lithuania 287
13. Castile 285
14. Delhi 240
15. Bohemia 225
16. Brandenburg 225
17. Aragon 197
18. Ayutthaya 192
19. Japan 175
20. Milan 174

Income

1. Ming 52.46
2. Ottomans 43.10
3. England 37.87
4. Bahmanis 36.64
5. France 31.58
6. Austria 29.85
7. Hungary 29.60
8. Timurids 27.61
9. Castile 24.46
10. Muscovy 22.28
11. Novgorod 19.60
12. Burgundy 19.09
13. Bohemia 18.53
14. Mamluks 18.43
15. Delhi 15.12
16. Milan 15.03
17. Mutapa 14.96
18. Brandenburg 14.93
19. Aragon 14.11
20. Morocco 13.87

Max. Manpower

1. Austria 53,253
2. Ottomans 52,339
3. Timurids 47,989
4. England 46,992
5. France 42,461
6. Ming 41,337
7. Muscovy 36,430
8. Castile 29,233
9. Bahmanis 28,791
10. Mamluks 28,595
11. Burgundy 26,893
12. Bohemia 24,847
13. Uzbek 24,642
14. Hungary 24,563
15. Aragon 23,977
16. Naples 23,594
17. Yarkand 21,423
18. Brandenburg 21,177
19. Mewar 20,927
20. Sweden 20,856

Standing Army

1. Ming 69,000
2. Ottomans 68,993
3. Austria 58,000
4. Timurids 46,222
5. France 44,000
6. England 43,000
7. Bahmanis 43,000
8. Mamluks 40,000
9. Castile 38,000
10. Burgundy 36,000
11. Hungary 30,000
12. Muscovy 25,910
13. Brandenburg 24,000
14. Bohemia 22,000
15. Uzbek 22,000
16. Portugal 20,000
17. Denmark 19,000
18. Malacca 18,000
19. Novgorod 17,000
20. Mutapa 17,000

War Fleet

1. Ottomans 0/54
2. Ming 8/14
3. Mamluks 0/21
4. Venice 0/15
5. Hungary 0/13
6. Timurids 0/12
7. England 10/0
8. Genoa 0/9
9. Korea 0/7
10. Naples 0/5
11. Aragon 0/5
12. France 4/0
13. Riga 0/4
14. Dai Viet 0/4
15. Japan 0/4
16. Ayutthaya 4/0
17. Mecklenburg 0/4
18. Haasa 0/3
19. Castile 3/0
20. Brunei 3/0

Trade Fleet

1. England 16
2. Ming 13
3. Genoa 10
4. Malacca 10
5. Pasai 10
6. Portugal 9
7. Kilwa 9
8. Ayutthaya 8
9. Jolof 8
10. Sunda 7
11. Scotland 7
12. Brunei 7
13. Austria 6
14. Ceylon 6
15. Novgorod 6
16. Morocco 6
17. Mogadishu 6
18. Bahmanis 5
19. Burgundy 5
20. Ternate 5

Technologies

1. Burgundy 23
2. Bohemia 23
3. Brabant 23
4. Venice 23
5. Denmark 23
6. Naples 23
7. Flanders 23
8. Genoa 22
9. Cleves 22
10. Brunswick 22
11. Austria 22
12. England 22
13. Livonian Order 22
14. The Papal State 22
15. France 22
16. Ottomans 21
17. Galicia–Volhynia 21
18. The Palatinate 21
19. Scotland 21
20. Brandenburg 21

Sorry Groogy ;___;

new world seems a little empty so far, just appears to be some Nahuatl kingdoms fighting for dominance

Any chance we could get a look at how the Colonial Zones shape up since those kinda dictate how you go about colonizing

a real shame that neither Denmark or Sweden control Iceland, that seems like a really great jumping off point to colonize that northern island

 

[Iron00]

Before the war I already knew what the coalition wanted and was already offering it to them before the war had even started to Hungary but was turned down. Ottomans declared the war still and when I offered my unconditional surrender he ignored it and kept occupying my stuff in order to devastate me completely so I can not turn around in the future. (Why fight a war you can't win when you can recover instead and come back later). So I decided I had better stuff to do during my work hours and left.

And yes I've already proposed a mechanic for how to let players surrender unconditionally but at the same time saving their nation from hostile nation ruining.

I am not sure of a good way to convince a victorious nation to accept a surrender, but surely this time period has some historical examples. Maintaining the occupation of entire nations should be economically unsustainable.

On the other hand, I would appreciate a mechanic to avoid a hopeless war by invalidating my aggressor's casus belli. When a declaration of war is made, I should have the option to surrender whatever their casus belli is (a province, trade power, etc.) and if they want to prosecute the war anyway they must suffer the effects of having no casus belli or possibly switch to another.

 

[SolSys]

Couldn't seem to find any info in the last few pages here.

Does someone knows what the 3rd icon near the Revanchism and the Score is?
[guess: looks like an envoy icon with clock so 'envoy travel time'?]

Also, I don't play MP so maybe it's not new, but does somebody recognize the icon at the bottom of the diplomacy tab?
[guess: looks like an eye and a map so 'selected nations view-zone'?]

 

[oskar-kar]

Couldn't seem to find any info in the last few pages here.

Does someone knows what the 3rd icon near the Revanchism and the Score is?
[guess: looks like an envoy icon with clock so 'envoy travel time'?]
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Also, I don't play MP so maybe it's not new, but does somebody recognize the icon at the bottom of the diplomacy tab?
[guess: looks like an eye and a map so 'selected nations view-zone'?]
View attachment 140487

What are you doing? That is Secret Denmark unannounced feature! We were not supposed to know that yet! What about sacred diaries? We are doomed! Wiz-God have mercy on us!

But seriously, I was also wondering about those, but DDRJake and Wiz streaming 9th October kind of on purpose didn't see anything new in diplomacy screen so...

 

[Groogy]

I think by the end of the next session that alliance will have dissolved.

Well of course. Ottomans have exploited that alliance to the max now and is the only one that gained from it. He has no interest in keeping the alliance as his interests conflicts with Hungary who want the cossack provinces he just took.

Ottomans Gg and central Europe lost because they got tricked by an old guy in an alley with candy.

 

[SolSys]

What are you doing? That is Secret Denmark unannounced feature! We were not supposed to know that yet! What about sacred diaries? We are doomed! Wiz-God have mercy on us!

You are right!
I will immediately sacrifice a young supple virgin to appease the lead-gods.
... [gone on a journey]
We are doomed! I couldn't find any**!

But seriously, I was also wondering about those, but DDRJake and Wiz streaming 9th October kind of on purpose didn't see anything new in diplomacy screen so...

It wasn't present on the 9th October stream. It's from today's dev MP***.


**seriously what do those teens eating this days?
***you could tell the UI is still a WiP.

 

[SolSys]

Well of course. Ottomans have exploited that alliance to the max now and is the only one that gained from it. He has no interest in keeping the alliance as his interests conflicts with Hungary who want the cossack provinces he just took.

Ottomans Gg and central Europe lost because they got tricked by an old guy in an alley with candy.

Well, somebody will be coming late and tired to the office tomorrow

EDIT: Wait, you are at home right? Don't tell me you guys are sill working till this late?!

 

[Groogy]

Well, somebody will be coming late and tired to the office tomorrow

EDIT: Wait, you are at home right? Don't tell me you guys are sill working till this late?!

Pff puny mortal think I need sleep

 

[yerm]

Well, somebody will be coming late and tired to the office tomorrow

EDIT: Wait, you are at home right? Don't tell me you guys are sill working till this late?!

Home? Groogy doesn't work part time.

 

[Wagonlitz]

On the other hand, I would appreciate a mechanic to avoid a hopeless war by invalidating my aggressor's casus belli. When a declaration of war is made, I should have the option to surrender whatever their casus belli is (a province, trade power, etc.) and if they want to prosecute the war anyway they must suffer the effects of having no casus belli or possibly switch to another.

Then casus bellis need to be wider, since otherwise you will be stuck with just a single province when you actually wanted say 5. Also cannot remember if you can press all claims at once. And anyway it doesn't help with things like imperialism.

 

[AK47/Deagle]

Notice Mamluks colonizing down through Sahara.

 

[Utretch]

Notice Mamluks colonizing down through Sahara.

Ah, the ole' Get--Me-the-Heck-Away-from-these-People.

 

[The Witch-King]

Well of course. Ottomans have exploited that alliance to the max now and is the only one that gained from it. He has no interest in keeping the alliance as his interests conflicts with Hungary who want the cossack provinces he just took.

That is just desperate propaganda and you know it

 

[nOxr]

That is just desperate propaganda and you know it

...says the old guy in the alley with an evil grin, before he turns around and offers more candy to Hungary, candy flavoured with lithuanian tears.

 

[tiredgamer]

When a declaration of war is made, I should have the option to surrender whatever their casus belli is (a province, trade power, etc.) and if they want to prosecute the war anyway they must suffer the effects of having no casus belli or possibly switch to another.

I thought I saw it said that expanded diplomacy in The Cossacks will allow you to demand core and strong claim provinces from your neighbors and automatically declare war if they refuse.

 

[Iron00]

Then casus bellis need to be wider, since otherwise you will be stuck with just a single province when you actually wanted say 5. Also cannot remember if you can press all claims at once. And anyway it doesn't help with things like imperialism.

One province for zero work sounds like a good deal, especially if the victim suffers accompanying prestige penalties for failing to protect its people and land, and even more so if there is no accompanying truce. Appeasement like this would only be beneficial for the victim in certain circumstances, like if you need a year to find an ally or build an army. Some casus belli could not be appeased probably, and that would be fine.

 

[Wagonlitz]

One province for zero work sounds like a good deal, especially if the victim suffers accompanying prestige penalties for failing to protect its people and land, and even more so if there is no accompanying truce. Appeasement like this would only be beneficial for the victim in certain circumstances, like if you need a year to find an ally or build an army. Some casus belli could not be appeased probably, and that would be fine.

If there is a truce then it is horribly broken and if there isn't a truce why wouldn't the attacker come back immediately?




Also does anybody know whether or not it actually is possible for a secret Denmark country to be in the new world? I know that was the code name of the expansion, but in the stream Jake also talked about a secret Denmark in the new world.

 

[ashbery76]

Did they actively try to employ a new King?

 

[DDRJake]

Also does anybody know whether or not it actually is possible for a secret Denmark country to be in the new world?

What could it all mean?