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Eldin

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w00t! Serbia application!

*goes on to party like it's 1999*

And Sap, those are some mighty concessions you are agreeing to... the king likes it no doubt, you and I might have to do some faction lobbying though :p
 

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Eldin said:
w00t! Serbia application!

*goes on to party like it's 1999*

And Sap, those are some mighty concessions you are agreeing to... the king likes it no doubt, you and I might have to do some faction lobbying though :p

YAHOO!!!!

We got a Serbia hehe :)

LET PARTY!!! :D

Btw, these mightly concessions will also affect your own subjects ;)

I suppose that all the subjects in this kingdom will do the same, after all, this idea is excellent way to maintain controls on all these goods that your kingdom produced.

As for our merchants will pay tolls and taxes, they must be the same as any other merchants of the kingdom.

So other words, the taxes and tolls of Ragusans must be the same as Bosinan merchants ;) And Bosinans will do the same thing about sending goods to Visoko as well.

ahh, I see... I will have to re-edit it :eek:o Sorry about misunderstanding...

Cheer

Sap.
 

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Edited:

Then I suppose that all the subjects of mines as well your subjects in this kingdom will do the same,

Jade Welcome to the game :), we will look forward to fun ;)

Cheer

Sap.
 

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Jape said:
Thank you for the warm welcome Sapphire though my name is Jape :rolleyes:

Are Serbo-Republican relations tested already?

I'll let you off with a warning but the Autocrator of Serbia is not as forgiving as I

;)

Jape :eek:o

Serbo-Republican realtions tested? why they are best of friends :D :rofl: I misread the name. Very tired out here. 2am to be more excat. I owned about 95% of all your mines, same with Bonsia. *whistle cheerfully*

Your most important mines was Novo Brdo in Serbia. It was famous for its auriferous silver,'white silver' After these, came Rudnik in Serbia. Srebrenica also produced lead. Copper was obtained in Rudnik in Serbia as well Iron Ore was obtained at Busovaca.

Crucial to the development of the mining industry was Ragusans. They are mine owners and investors. Traditionally, ownership of a mine was divided into 64 shares and wealthy Ragusan merchants often purchased all of these. Other Ragusans alos lived around the mining communities, working in other capacities as goldsmiths, masters of mints and shopkeepers. Ragusans were present in Novo Brdo both as mine owners and wholesale traders. Throughout the 14 and 15th C, Ragusans even acted as counts, in charge of security of these settlements.

Silver and lead in blocks, gold in ingots, copper in plates would be loaded onto horses whose task it was to bring them back to Dubrovnik in caravan. These packhorses were usually driven by Vlachs known as ponosnici and their valuable loads were guarded by other Vlachs armed with swords, daggers and crossbows. Runners and Riders regularly connected the Ragusans at the mining centres with Dubrovnik, passing on information and so allowing investors to follow the fortunes of their invesment. The route which these caravans took was well established. There was a road between Adriatic and the mining and commercial centres of Serbia.

Ragusan had long enjoyed their own special privileges. Mixed juries of Saxons, Serbian and Ragusans were appointed to judge in disputes between members of the three communities, while internal Ragusan conflcits were resolved by a Ragusab consul and two Ragusan judges chosen from patrician family. There were well-organised and judicially recognised Ragusan communities in trading centres through the Balkan from the early 14th C. These communities were governed by 'consuls', there were consuls in Novo Brdo in 1360, Srebrenica in 1366 and Drijeva in 1370 to named few example. The consuls of the Ragusan mercantile communities in the Balkan would be appointed by Dubrovnik's Reactor and Small Council from among Ragusan merchants living there, preferably from patricians. Alongside the consul were appointed two judges, also preferably patricians. These officers were sent copies of appropriate legal regulations by the Small Council and were expected to judge according to them, and they were also registered in the Dubrovnik Chancer. Appeals could be made to the Ragusan courts.

So Ragusans are vital part of the Serbian Economy ;) Ragusa can play havoc with your economy. As it did in history when Sebria act against Ragusa in early 14th C

The people of Serbia looked to Dubrovnik to provide them with salt. But Dubrovnik was the single most important source compared to Bosnia and Hungary. Also from Serbia and Balkan, Ragusan merchants was also bringing back loads of skins - both hides (of cattle, buffalo, goatds and sheep) to be made into leather and pelts from wild animals that served to adorn clothes and hats at Dubrovnik. Most were despatched, in raw and processed states to Italy. Another bulk import was beeswax. It was not only used for the candle which lit Ragusan churches, homes and workshois but was export trade to Italy. The trade of skins and wool brought to Dubrovnik from Balkan by caravans. The trade was organisted by kramari,. These people working out of the southern Serbia were responsible for purchasing the merchandies and hiring the guides and packhorses on behalf of Ragusan merchants. many of the caravans were hugr and must have presented an extraordinary spectacle. For example, at the end of December 1390, one Ragusan merchant sent alone from Sofia 10,5000 buffalo and cow hides; the following June he despatched a silimar number. A large caravan might consist of well over 1,000 horses and be accompanied by over 200 men.

I would not even go into maritime Trade :)

Cheer

Sap.
 

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... Ahhh, I love middle eastern occultism :D Don't you?
 

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Very nice Jeff, very nice indeed :D Im going to save it in notepad, work like this deserves preservation :p
 

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hehehe Thanks Calipah, I hoped you'd enjoy it :D

Well, thanks to this game in my Jalayirid posts I can mix some of my favourite things... History, strange visions and hallucinogenic drug use ;)
 

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You will need to wait until one of the moderators of the game say it is okay for you to begin playing. Normally that would be Ladislav’s job, but since I think he is away at the moment, you just have to wait for one of the other mods to drop by:)
 

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Wow, SaT. Wow. That coronation was fantastic! My hat's off to you sir.

Do we still do Hall of Fame around here?
 

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Lord E said:
You will need to wait until one of the moderators of the game say it is okay for you to begin playing. Normally that would be Ladislav’s job, but since I think he is away at the moment, you just have to wait for one of the other mods to drop by:)

Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me
 

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von Streusser said:
Wow, SaT. Wow. That coronation was fantastic! My hat's off to you sir.

Do we still do Hall of Fame around here?
Nope. I wish I had a little more authority so that I could bring it back, but that'd be overstepping my bounds.

The HoF was great ;)
 

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Jape said:
The rules say I should ask to play a NPc country, in my case, Serbia and then await conformation, but from who? Im dying to get started but Im not sure if Im allowed :rolleyes: so to speak

Welcome to the game Jape, i'd suggest checking out my retired Serbia court in the vault. :)
 

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N Katsyev said:
Welcome to the game Jape, i'd suggest checking out my retired Serbia court in the vault. :)
Yeah. Another note, though... Don't worry about playing in the shadow of N. Katsyev, Jape. It's impossible to fill his shoes, or duplicate his activity, and no one expects you to. :)
 

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HJ don't you forget to sign something? :p
 

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N Katsyev said:
Welcome to the game Jape, i'd suggest checking out my retired Serbia court in the vault. :)

I should have read this earlier :eek:o , i've already set up a basic court not in as much detail as yours Im afriad, but what's done is done, still I'll look over it and see if there's anything a add. Thanks