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Actually, to kill the debate, You're both wrong.

See: Treaty of Caltabellotta.
Charles II, ancestor of Charles III forfeited all claims to the Kingdom of Sicily, which was unformally renamed Trinacria. (There was still only one actual kingdom that both occupied half of.)

The Treaty of Caltabellota was signed by Frederick II of Sicily (who called himself III), Charles II of Naples, and also signed by the Papacy, therefore completely legitimizing the House of Barcelona as the monarchs there.

Charles III has no claim, because Charles II relinquished his own.
On the other hand, Maria and Frederick have several claims on Naples, one even stems from the above treaty.

According to the terms of the treaty, Frederick "III" (II) of Sicily married Eleanore d'Anjou, daughter of King Charles II.


Let's face it. We captured Charles I, we captured Charles II, we captured three of Charles II's sons, we beat them repeatedly in battle on sea and on land, and we even took Charles II's daughter in marriage.

Sicily > Naples.

 

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The more we discuss this, the more it sounds like the Richard III saga.

Henry VII claimed to rule by his own right, despite the fact that his claim was based on a legitimized bastard of John of Gaunt that John stated would not be eligible to rule the throne.

Therefore, Henry VII legally ruled, but only because of his marriage to Elizabeth of York.


Translate to EU:M...

Whether we agree or not, Frederick is King of Sicily, if because of his descent or his marriage is of negligible importance.

 

[AugCaesar]

All awaiting responses from myself, I've been swamped with work down in Houston th is week, I promise to catch up this weekend!

 

[Blade!]

But Aug... Houston hasn't been discovered yet! o

 

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Sorry if I'm asking to many questions, but I was wondering what is the rumours thread all about?

What should go in there as opposed to your own court thread?


EDIT: And how the heck does everyone write so much! Caliph in the rumours thread is practically publishing books!!!

Great work though.

 

[Blade!]

Sorry if I'm asking to many questions, but I was wondering what is the rumours thread all about?

What should go in there as opposed to your own court thread?
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Please ask as many questions as you feel you want answers to. We may not know the answers, but we will try our best.


The RUMOURS thread is very important, but is often abused.

It is a place to showcase a particular post from somewhere else, which is somthing that is important for public disclosure or of particular importance to your storylines.


Example #1: A serious change in your court that changes foreign policy towards people, which everyone would know about.

Example #2: A physical action which everyone should know about and might react to... military engagement, wedding, slaughtering the archbishop of your nation in the public square, colonizing or culturally converting a new province over time, etc.

Example #3: A piece of writing you feel is just absolutely delicious and you must share.


Frankly, I think that a post copied to the Rumours thread post requires extra quality and attention, as you are basically saying "Hey look, everyone should take the time to read this if you want to understand my country/character."

Sometimes, some folks have been known to spam the rumours thread every other day. (sometimes, in a particular significant event this may be needed... decisive series of battles, the Pope personally chains and tortures the HRE, etc. )

This is my take on the rumours thread, other may have another interpretation.

 

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Hey guys. In the thread`s name the court of Anjou is in Marsille. But of course that wasn`t a good shot and I think I`ll move it to Arles. But I have also many another options ( like Aix and some others ), so let`s not rush it, I`ll make some research and decide then.

 

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I`ve lost my adress to ftp server I used for my pictures when I was playing Naples.

I`m looking for sth. new now, could somebody help me, what servers do you use?

 

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Seems that Green Count is going to be really green soon

 

[Valdemar]

Indeed, but oyu shouldn't be too happy.. he died for you.. and his son may exact a price for that :evil:

V

 

[Valdemar]

In fact you better get that court open, with Auvergne, Milan and France less active, and Byzans getting of the air so to speak.. I need someone to harrass

V

 

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Indeed, but oyu shouldn't be too happy.. he died for you.. and his son may exact a price for that :evil:

V

Ohhh, how romantic. . He died for Achaea I suppose?

 

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In fact you better get that court open, with Auvergne, Milan and France less active, and Byzans getting of the air so to speak.. I need someone to harrass

V

Make my day baby, make my day...

 

[Valdemar]

Ohhh, how romantic. . He died for Achaea I suppose?

Actually IRL he died in 1383 which is now, from plaque contracted while fighting with Lois Anjou trying to secure Lois' claim in Naples... so not Achea no, but you

V

 

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Actually IRL he did in 1383 which is now, form plaque contracted while fighitng with ois Anjou trying to secure Lois' claim in Naples... so not Achea no, but you

V

Ehhh, I`m sure he fought for Naples to secure his claim for Achea, this is quite logic.

Anyway I have a problem becouse:

1. Accordong to history, Louis should be now in Naples, fighting, then in 1384 he should die somewhere in Calabria.
2. If he`s not in Naples, he won`t die. I`m not sure if I want to kill him to "fit in the dates" when there`s no reason.

 

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Ohhh, how romantic. . He died for Achaea I suppose?

Err, he died for Louis d'Anjou indeed. The Green Count embodied the chivalric ideals in every means possible, and thus it makes sense that he helped the cause of Duke Louis d'Anjou merely out of pure goodwill. Not to mention he was allegedly a close friend of Louis. They even formed a "Company of Knights" along with Amédée of Geneva and some other princes.

As for Achaia: he maintained no claims on Achaia. That's the other line of the family. Besides, if he really craved to get Achaia, he could have done something about it after his crusade.

 

[Valdemar]

Nods, nothing like a knowledgeable Pope

Cough up with the penalty next time yo pass start Behoverel

and pls note I will expect a letter to have gone to you too, except your court is closed

V

 

[Valdemar]

Ehhh, I`m sure he fought for Naples to secure his claim for Achea, this is quite logic.

Anyway I have a problem becouse:

1. Accordong to history, Louis should be now in Naples, fighting, then in 1384 he should die somewhere in Calabria.
2. If he`s not in Naples, he won`t die. I`m not sure if I want to kill him to "fit in the dates" when there`s no reason.

As SaT said, he died for oyu, and your quest.. just like he crusaded in Connie to secure the Emperor's throne.. he was actually something as strange as an honourable knight

And he should have died in Naples too, in fact I think there should have been a war active when this RPG started. However for RP reasons i had him die at home in his bed...

V

 

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Nods, nothing like a knowledgeable Pope

Cough up with the penalty next time yo pass start Behoverel

V

That wasn`t pope that was SaT, and I`m not Louis, I`m Beherovek. So let`s don`t mess Lounge with courts ok?

 

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ahhh, I was going to write some opening post but I give it up,

the court of Anjou is open​

I will work on it.