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N Katsyev said:
You're best off trying to make an agreement with the other person in question I think. Such as me with Beograd. Physically it would lie within my 'Servia' province, yet Hungary owned now it till 1392, so Icarus and I are under the understanding that's its currently his.

I think that's what you are asking about anyway...

that is indeed part of it, but it is ofc also a question of when enough minor claims turn into a claim on the province ;)

He was succeeded by his sons Edward (1323-29) and Aymon (1329-43). The latter by marriage gained a claim to Montferrat.

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Icarus said:
Agressive? Moi? I have sent a diplomat to my former vassal, if I had been agressive I would have sent an army :p

As said diplomat gets bounced about the country and visited by strange nameless men in the night. :eek: Soon i'll probably have about five emissaries all looking for Lazar and making a great circuit of Serbia instead. :D
 

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As said diplomat gets bounced about the country and visited by strange nameless men in the night. :eek: Soon i'll probably have about five emissaries all looking for Lazar and making a great circuit of Serbia instead. :D

Ahhh, now I see! The guys he has come in contact with is in reality the serbian tourist information office :D Giving him a free tour of Serbia as advertisement huh? Pretty slick :cool:
 

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Icarus said:
Ahhh, now I see! The guys he has come in contact with is in reality the serbian tourist information office :D Giving him a free tour of Serbia as advertisement huh? Pretty slick :cool:

Yup, I figure Dubrovnik is skimming all the profit off my silver mines, tourism has become of primary importance to my economy. :D

Serbia - The Real Balkans; call your travel agent and book today!
 

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I too say go Hungary, as noted from the little diet speech. Of course, I doubt many people will care what Meissen has to say, but it was fun to write.

well, the Wettins are electors right? they hold considerable political power within the HRE
 

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No major influence? but you are.. King of Sicily, Naples, and Jerusalem! :rofl:

Please do not behead my diplomat for that joke. I'll need him for the royal wedding ;)
 

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No major influence? but you are.. King of Sicily, Naples, and Jerusalem! :rofl:

Please do not behead my diplomat for that joke. I'll need him for the royal wedding ;)
behead? are you insane? he is the only decent character you have. the others are all descended from bastards. count of malta, queen of sicily, baron of bavusso. It's sickening.
 
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behead? are you insane? he is the only decent character you have. the others are all descended from bastards. count of malta, queen of sicily, baron of bavusso. It's sickening.
Indeed.:p

BTW, Naples and Sicily *is* rightfully mine, the Pope supports me there, he decided that I should get Naples... he's a woman-hater, and in this case, thank God he is:p The Pope gave the Anjou's Naples and supported them against the aragonese. He even excommunicated the aragonese King for his intervention in Sicily, and him taking Anjou's as prisoners and claiming ransom for them. *gives cccino big hug*;):)

Meissen is a happy county up north, not down south.:D Besides, italians are ganging up with each others if someone tries to invade.:p

But nice try in the HRE court...;):p
 

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Mormegil said:
Indeed.:p

BTW, Naples and Sicily *is* rightfully mine, the Pope supports me there, he decided that I should get Naples... he's a woman-hater, and in this case, thank God he is:p The Pope gave the Anjou's Naples and supported them against the aragonese. He even excommunicated the aragonese King for his intervention in Sicily, and him taking Anjou's as prisoners and claiming ransom for them. *gives cccino big hug*;):)

Meissen is a happy county up north, not down south.:D Besides, italians are ganging up with each others if someone tries to invade.:p

But nice try in the HRE court...;):p
The fake Pope who was born in Naples, you mean?

I'd hate to see you try to enforce this claim... (The one Giovanna gave up a decade ago)

Virtually no one in the Mediterranean gives any credence to the words of Charles the Murderer or his Antipope ;)
 
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Looking further, there is a whole host of minor counties and other fiefs that I either control or have claim on in the surrounding provinces, do I list them in my court, and RP for them accordingly?

One thing for instance is the secualr governance of Geneva, which I know is Avignon Papacy, but it surely has RP potential ;)
Amédée de Savoie purchased Geneva in 1408. Until that, the House of Savoy had no claim on the County of Geneva. The last Count of Geneva was Robert de Geneve, also known as Clement VII. Currently his brother's the count over there.
 
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The fake Pope who was born in Naples, you mean?

I'd hate to see you try to enforce this claim... (The one Giovanna gave up a decade ago)

Virtually no one in the Mediterranean gives any credence to the words of Charles the Murderer or his Antipope ;)
Everyone not Avignon-supporters does;) And not Hungary obviously, but Hungary can't do much, helping you AND being a female, should make Maria very infamous in the Papal court...

Rather a murder than a bastard (on both lines for god's sake:p) Learn to get married;)

No in the Med, but England seems to be a good friend... and english money is all the love I need;)
 

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I'll now have to hope the Empire was truely neutral in the papal schism, but given my proximity to lands of Avignon following it's probably no strange idea to want my lands free from the horrors of war ;)
 

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England? you mean the one that is claiming the thrones of both France and Castille? Yeah, that England is going to be of tons of help. France hates you. They want the Duc d'Anjou on your throne. I doubt they'd sit still if England got involved in an Italian war.
 

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Mormegil said:
Indeed.:p

BTW, Naples and Sicily *is* rightfully mine, the Pope supports me there, he decided that I should get Naples... he's a woman-hater, and in this case, thank God he is:p The Pope gave the Anjou's Naples and supported them against the aragonese. He even excommunicated the aragonese King for his intervention in Sicily, and him taking Anjou's as prisoners and claiming ransom for them. *gives cccino big hug*;):)

Meissen is a happy county up north, not down south.:D Besides, italians are ganging up with each others if someone tries to invade.:p

But nice try in the HRE court...;):p
I'd have to disagree. Naples and Sicily are "rightfully" mine. The pope kicked out a bastard who was accepted by the people. Afterwards, the pope negotiated peaces between Sicily and Naples where Sicily was allowed to remain independent, thus the papacy ignored their earlier decisions.

He's a bastard, and you're only there because some pope really hated the empire.

The empire is still here. What about the papacy?

Stalin said it best.
 

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Look, it's simple. Everyone hates Charles. His own family, his neighbors... Heck, I bet his Pope isn't even too fond of him. This'll end with either Maria, Maria, or Louis on your throne. As for my throne, You try sinking Maria's navy and you go tell the Aragonese that they should give up something they'll probably inherit. ;)