Paradox Lounge (Off-Topic)

[Longinus]

He's in service to the vague concept that is Poland at the moment, makes him Polish to me.

he is in service to his Prince who happens to be Lithuanian-Ruthenian lord, he doesn't give a shit about farway Poland. Poland definitely isn't a vague concept at the moment Russia was

btw, read my first PM from yesterday and please edit the stuff I asked to edit.

 

[N Katsyev]

he is in service to his Prince who happens to be Lithuanian-Ruthenian lord, he doesn't give a shit about farway Poland. Poland definitely isn't a vague concept at the moment Russia was

btw, read my first PM from yesterday and please edit the stuff I asked to edit.

Okies, well then I retract my calling him a Pole. The reason I called Poland a vague concept is her current lack of a monarch-type person (chaos and dissaray as you say in your sig). As for Russia, it still is a vague concept to most.

As for your first pm, i've already deleted it - though I remember you saying the red colour wasn't too great. Did anyone else find this to be the case? (that's in the events)

 

[Longinus]

As for your first pm, i've already deleted it - though I remember you saying the red colour wasn't too great. Did anyone else find this to be the case? (that's in the events)

not very smart deleting PMs before reading them

anyway, the current red sucks, I also asked you to edit out the Battlepope, even though he is funny as hell he is equally off topic.

 

[N Katsyev]

not very smart deleting PMs before reading them

anyway, the current red sucks, I also asked you to edit out the Battlepope, even though he is funny as hell he is equally off topic.

I read it, that's how I knew you disliked the colour. I forgot the Battlepope bit, but I figured it was relevant enough, Clement being the Battlepope and all. I'll leave it up to SaT.

 

[Longinus]

I read it, that's how I knew you disliked the colour. I forgot the Battlepope bit, but I figured it was relevant enough, Clement being the Battlepope and all. I'll leave it up to SaT.

there was also something else, but it's irrelevant heh

Clement can be the battlepope, sure, but the cartoon with flying superhero is not really too medieval-like is it?

 

[N Katsyev]

there was also something else, but it's irrelevant heh

Clement can be the battlepope, sure, but the cartoon with flying superhero is not really too medieval-like is it?

No, it definitely isn't. But its cute, like I said, i'll leave it up to SaT. If it were superman, i'd agree with you completely. But its battlepope, dunno, somehow it works for me.

 

[N Katsyev]

Oh, and about the colour. If someone else has better suggestions for negative results, I think Long suggested Orange, let's have 'em. Might as well make this a group activity.

EDIT: And btw, sorry Calipah. Those rebels are nasteh bastidges. o

 

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red sucks. I had to make negative to read it.

 

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I'll have to get back to you on that. I was under the impression that all the Cardinals had a permanent place in the Curia, constituting a council of the sorts that advised secular monarchs, ergo all Cardinals would be in my RP control, not the control of the owner of the territory to which the Cardinal was once assigned to the diocese of before he became a Cardinal.

That's right. There were a few exceptions, like Archbishop Demeter of Esztergom, who was allowed to reside in Hungary in order to keep his diocese, but that's an exception. I handed out my cardinas on the advise of Txini, to somehow simulate the external influence and possible defections (though IRL only Urban's cardinals went to the other camp until the Avignon obedience fell apart), and most notably the conclaves.


Err, Katz, I was kidding when I proposed you to use the Battlepope pic there . Oh my, feel free to change it, of course.

 

[Sterkarm]

Hey guys, sorry I haven't been very active lately, it's just tough for me to get around to fixing my court up (it being an abstract sort of thing, no concrete goal, etc.), but I'm gonna just open it up anyway. Feel free to post there now, empty as it may be,

 

[N Katsyev]

red sucks. I had to make negative to read it.

That's two no's to red. The colour there is a brick, which I happily stole from Ladislav's announcements. Regular red is even worse when in small print.

1 Negative
2 Negative
3 Negative
4 Negative

Or perhaps, I was using black for things that were not statistical, maybe I should do black for negative as well?

EDIT: Eep, i've to be going anyway. And Battlepope is eliminated.

 

[Longinus]

That's two no's to red. The colour there is a brick, which I happily stole from Ladislav's announcements. Regular red is even worse when in small print.

1 Negative
2 Negative
3 Negative
4 Negative

Or perhaps, I was using black for things that were not statistical, maybe I should do black for negative as well?

EDIT: Eep, i've to be going anyway. And Battlepope is eliminated.

the red Strekam (or you) uses in his sig is okay I think

black is also painful to read

 

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EDIT: And btw, sorry Calipah. Those rebels are nasteh bastidges. o

Thats ok, it will make for fine rp, since it is supposedly the last and worst rebellion in Grenada's history - question though : do I send in orders for military movements now?

 

[Sterkarm]

Btw, Long, you looking to follow a certain path here? By that I mean historical or a-historical mainly.

Also I'm wondering exactly how much of a presence I should make the Lithuanian religion. It seems at this point that Jogaila cared very little about his religion (being so ready to switch for what seemed like an expansionist reason), but I don't know much about whether he was devoutly Catholic or Pagan.

Furthermore, I assume that Vytautas has at this point escaped to Teutonic lands, right? Was his brother, Zygimantas, also involved in the civil war and how did he end up? If Vytautas has, as I assume, escaped, you could use him quite well, Mettermrck.

 

[Mettermrck]

Furthermore, I assume that Vytautas has at this point escaped to Teutonic lands, right? Was his brother, Zygimantas, also involved in the civil war and how did he end up? If Vytautas has, as I assume, escaped, you could use him quite well, Mettermrck.

Well, Vytautas is yours to play. I would enjoy some RP interaction if you'd like to bring him out in my court.

 

[Longinus]

Btw, Long, you looking to follow a certain path here? By that I mean historical or a-historical mainly.

I have no idea man I would definitely like to RP with Liths, time will tell if we are to follow history or not first I need to deal with the inheritance hehe, there perhaps with the issue of marriage

Also I'm wondering exactly how much of a presence I should make the Lithuanian religion. It seems at this point that Jogaila cared very little about his religion (being so ready to switch for what seemed like an expansionist reason), but I don't know much about whether he was devoutly Catholic or Pagan.

hehe, he was a pragmatic above everthing I think he did not care about religion at all

however, his Lith subjects, simple folks, treated their beliefs very seriously, especially in Samogita and around Lithuania proper. remember though that a considerable number of Lith population is of orthodox church.

Furthermore, I assume that Vytautas has at this point escaped to Teutonic lands, right? Was his brother, Zygimantas, also involved in the civil war and how did he end up? If Vytautas has, as I assume, escaped, you could use him quite well, Mettermrck.

yeah, there was a great feud between Jogaila and Vytautas which lasted for years and hiccupped from time to time after Grunwald

 

[Sterkarm]

Uh, Long I'm a bit confused about who is who in your country. Who is representing/supporting Jadwiga? The Dowager Queen? Also, why is the whole section of factions and dynasties in Polish? That doesn't help me out very much. I know Bartosz is anti-foreign ruler and Sigismund is pro-Jadwiga (right?) but that he intends to marry her and rule Poland as king?

 

[N Katsyev]

hehe, he was a pragmatic above everthing I think he did not care about religion at all

however, his Lith subjects, simple folks, treated their beliefs very seriously, especially in Samogita and around Lithuania proper. remember though that a considerable number of Lith population is of orthodox church.

Was there much tension in the Lith conversion to Catholicism? When the Russians were first taking up Christianity for most it wasn't a big deal. They simply incorproated the old beliefs with the new ones, tossed the giant gold pagan statues into the Dniepr and moved on. There was some resistance, but not a great deal.

Also as Long says, remember that though the Liths may largely still be Pagan the majority of people under your rule are Orthodox Russians anyway.

And yes, i'm home again, a whole debacle involving rain, a flat tyre and a worthless jack. Means make-up on Saturday.

 

[Longinus]

Uh, Long I'm a bit confused about who is who in your country. Who is representing/supporting Jadwiga? The Dowager Queen? Also, why is the whole section of factions and dynasties in Polish? That doesn't help me out very much. I know Bartosz is anti-foreign ruler and Sigismund is pro-Jadwiga (right?) but that he intends to marry her and rule Poland as king?

it's simple, I didn't translate the factions yet. however, if you read the intro post, the one in Hungarian court and the newset one in Polish court/rumours, you should get the general idea.

in short, there are 4 factions in Poland atm, Malopolska nobles want Jadwiga Angevin on the throne, the Landlords (led by Wincęty of Kepy) faction wants Angevin on the throne (but would eventually agree to someone else), starost of Wielkopolska wants Maria Angevin on the throne, Bartosz of Odolanów wants Ziemovit IV of Mazovia on the throne. there are some other factions as well, but only in my mind and history books so far, most notably the double-sided Władysław of Opole

 

[Sterkarm]

I don't quite know who's the Malopolska nobles however. I shall assume for all intents and purposes that it's the first Lord of Malopolska listed, Spytko of Melsztyn. He resides in Melsztyn I would guess?