Paradox: Give Venice the 'Memel' treatment

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Clownie

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Guys.

Guys.

It's a PC game.

We have keys and key bindings.

Now I'm not saying what if we could have an equivalent of control groups for provinces, but what if we could have an equivalent of control groups for provinces?
 
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I had made Venice Rhodes-sized and it was still clickable, while less obnoxiously potato.

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That's some nice borders. What mod did you used for that?
 

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Guys.

Guys.

It's a PC game.

We have keys and key bindings.

Now I'm not saying what if we could have an equivalent of control groups for provinces, but what if we could have an equivalent of control groups for provinces?
Pardon my ignorance, but I have no idea what you mean.
 

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I think the islands of Sulu and Ambon and fernando Po are way smaller then venice ingame.

As it is now, one would think Venice was bigger in 1444 to 1821 and shrunk after... Sea reclaiming land or whatnot.
 

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I think the islands of Sulu and Ambon and fernando Po are way smaller then venice ingame.

As it is now, one would think Venice was bigger in 1444 to 1821 and shrunk after... Sea reclaiming land or whatnot.

They're in far less cluttered areas, which makes a world of difference though.
 

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We fixed Memel from a horrible (beautiful) square into a correct geographic representation of the province.



Venice needs to be next. Paradox, if you look at a map, Venice is not a giant island sitting at the top of the Adriatic, it looks absurd in its current form.

Can we please get that changed to perhaps a very small island to the Northwest of the sea? I know its impossible to create a lagoon and the island itself, but moving it a bit, making it smaller, and making the strait geographically correct would be nice.

I looked at google earth Las mont and looked at Venice.

Do you realize how small Venice is?
One can argue that its not even an island but a marsh that humans built on top of.

In eu4 map, Venice wouldn't even be an island. It would simply be part of the coast.
 

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It's not one or the other - it could be made less obnoxious and still clickable (even if it's not real-life sized!) I say do it, it's annoyed me for ages too.