Not true, the SEGA pack I got earlier included a ton of DLC sprite packs for the Total War series.
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Not true, the SEGA pack I got earlier included a ton of DLC sprite packs for the Total War series.
I normally go with the "never buy Paradox games on Steam" philosophy, but this was just too good to pass up. I figure that if I like any of the games enough that I get annoyed waiting for patches, updates, etc. then I can buy them again elsewhere and I've still got a great deal overall. The part where a bunch of serial keys are either missing entirely (eg, Lionheart) or don't seem to work (eg, Ship Simulator extreme where Steam gives me a 25 character code and the forums want a 24 character one) isn't particularly great, though, and does reinforce my general attitude towards Paradox games on Steam.
I guess that's as good as the Gamersgate prices will over the holidays.
40€ for Vicky 2, HoI 3 SF and Rome:Gold or 55€ for the whole pack on Steam. I guess I'll end up "deserting" to Steam...
40€ for Vicky 2, HoI 3 SF and Rome:Gold or 55€ for the whole pack on Steam. I guess I'll end up "deserting" to Steam...
Since I have most of the games already, this is not a difficult decision. Also, I have just read too many posts about people having problems Steam. Particularly with the EU3 series, not being able to run beta patches would be terrible.
Gamersgate games go on sale eventually, usually 70% off if you are patient enough. I would probably buy any Paradox title for $5.
Gamersgate games go on sale eventually, usually 70% off if you are patient enough. I would probably buy any Paradox title for $5.
I got the games on Steam and none of the Hearts of Iron style ones want to do LAN multiplayer. Button is greyed out. Very strange. But mostly annoying. 
With sales like this with prices that beat those of the publisher's (Paradox's) own digital distribution prices, what's there to stop Steam from picking up the remaining market share and becoming a monopoly? Steam certainly gets a lot of free advertising--this thread is a good example of that.
I don't begrudge anyone for their decision to purchase a game from Steam or any other distributor. However, when that distributor forces me to become a subscriber in order to play popular titles (the Total War series, Civilization V, etc.) it becomes very apparent to me that I am not being given the same consideration that I give others.
The saying goes that everyone has their price, but I don't plan on buying a game from Steam regardless of how cheap the price is. Steam may become 99.99999% of a monopoly, but it will do so without my support.
do you think there will be another price decrease in gg? (day deal 70% offer) thinking in to buy semper fi and vicky 2, but not enough money in my wallet
do you think there will be another price decrease in gg? (day deal 70% offer) thinking in to buy semper fi and vicky 2, but not enough money in my wallet
V2 and SF are currently 50% off winter sale: 20$ and 10$, respectively. GG also has the 4 for 3 offer currently, if you buy 4 games, the cheapest one is free!
Yes, and the other two games are 10€ apiece, giving a total of 40€.
My experience with their support was less then satisfactory. I understand why publishers go with them, but I've found more personal, accurrate and better support from others.
Our own digital distribution? We don't have our own distribution. We only sell digitally via other channels currently.
To be honest I think there's zero chance that Steam having monopoly. Things have a natural evolution, an ebb and flow. There will always be a chunk of gamers that will always shun steam (primarily where GG and others find their customers). That's besides those publishers who actually do sell directly from their own websites.
Right now Steam is doing great and others are trying to catch up. In a few years the online climate will have changed and Steam won't have such a dominant position.
What do you exactly mean by "subscriber"?
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I didn't say customer support. I said sale support - like this : http://store.steampowered.com/sub/6941/
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According to MobyGames: "GamersGate AB is a worldwide digital distribution portal which was launched in April 2006 by Paradox Interactive. Theodore Bergquist is President and CEO of GamersGate as well as Paradox Interactive AB...."
A Steam Subscriber is someone who agrees to the terms of the Steam Subscriber Agreement.
I'm pretty sure that information is outdated. GamersGate is a separate company now so far as I know. It's been asked and answered many times over the forum but I can't find a dev post right now for your reference. However you should be able to locate one if you search for it.
@Shams / PDox:
The confusion seems to be stemming from the fact that apparently the separation of GG and PDox was never widely documented. Even Wikipedia has this entry when you look up the Paradox Interactive article:
Wikipedia said:
In fact this leads to a suggestion I may or may not have said before (I honestly can't recall): For Paradox to fully use the potential of Wikipedia. Right now most, if not all, articles on wikipedia regarding Paradox and Paradox games are outdated, incomplete, wrong, or non-existent. If I recall there was a marketing person from Paradox roaming the forums around the time that Acheivements were introduced. Maybe he can look into it. Wikipedia is too large of an information source, atleast in North America, to be ignored the way it is now.
Potentially start a small thread asking for volunteers to contribute to the writing/updating/correcting of Wikipedia articles. Select a small group of the volunteers that come forward. Let them write the articles because I'm pretty sure PDox writing it's own articles is against the rules. Reward the writers with some reasonable prize for their efforts. And there you have it, fresh, nicely formatted, up-to-date, and informative Wikipedia articles on Paradox and Paradox games providing free marketing to the millions that use Wikipedia. Written by Paradox fans, so hopefully their enthusiasm will shine through as well.
Anyways,
Enjoy.
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I'm all Gamersgate, and that's not about to change. I have Steam only because i wanted to play the demo of CivV to test it.
Be yond that, as i hear code issues, DW not out yet, compatibility issues... and all will most certainly not incite me to go to Steam.
I guess my biggest problem is that one isn't able to buy an expansion on one portal, and the next on another... that one has to play with the latest patch, even if he wants to play with the previous one... For me, it's a restriction of my freedom as a customer, and it's not worth any price reduction.
Be yond that, as i hear code issues, DW not out yet, compatibility issues... and all will most certainly not incite me to go to Steam.
I guess my biggest problem is that one isn't able to buy an expansion on one portal, and the next on another... that one has to play with the latest patch, even if he wants to play with the previous one... For me, it's a restriction of my freedom as a customer, and it's not worth any price reduction.
Yep you are correct. I was too sleepy to interpret anything correctly at the time. Enjoy your new titles still.
And yet somehow you still seem to lead most people with quite a hefty margin. I can only imagine how it looked before.
Another boring "Keys from Steam Pack don't work in the forum" message. I agree with some of what's been said here (avoided steam at all costs but this was too good to pass up).
Honestly, this can be really good for paradox if it temps people who haven't heard of them.
Honestly, this can be really good for paradox if it temps people who haven't heard of them.