Paradox change your DLC policy!

[Klarum]

I hate the Republic DLC and what it has done to the game.

This is not about whether I like or dislike Republics or if I want or don’t want to play as one. I don’t, that is why I did not buy the DLC. The same way I did not buy the looney invasion DLC.

This is how Paradox chose to implement this DLC in a way that actually makes me, has a client, feel cheated. The reason being the game I originally bought from them, along with a ton of DLC, is now a different game because they altered it. This is like signing a contract with a network provider, buying their equipment and service and then once that is done they go and change the terms of service. Or any other product/service where the company changes the terms after you buy it in a way that damages you.

I bought a strategy game about medieval feudal kingdoms what I have now is “Medieval Corporations II”.

Since the DLC came out I had a game where Francia which also included the British Isles became a merchant Republic??? In two more games the merchant republics always conquer huge amounts of land in North Africa and other Muslim territories along with counties all over the Mediterranean. Republics with Holy War CB, LOL?

I cannot play the Feudal game now when vast areas of the map are Republics. No marriage strategies, plotting, backstabbing, I cannot interact with a large part of the map now because I am a feudal lord. What makes this bad is I did not buy the DLC because I don’t want the Republic gameplay but I still got it in there and now it has taken my joy of playing the game.

Paradox, please, make all DLC that fundamentally changes game mechanics truly OPTIONAL. Is there really such a great multiplayer community that justifies changing the game to accommodate different owners of DLCs? Out of, who knows, 500,000 copies sold there are maybe 50 people playing multiplayer!
I hope some modder finds a way to disable Republics altogether.

PS: I have a Steam copy like the MAJORITY of people that bought the game so dont say anything about rollbacks.

 

[Lord Flash]

Hear, hear.

I must admit to reverting to 1.08 and I'm trying to avoid the 1.09 update...like the plague! (not that you wanted to hear about rollbacks).

 

[Erkanan]

Your problem is not the dlc policy but the free patch.

 

[theKing1988]

In my first game with 1.09 the HRE roflstomped Pisa and Venice out of existence within the first 50 years of the game, i don't think you can speak of a general trend based on ONLY THREE games.

 

[liamgamer55]

Gameplay keeps on changing with patches. If you don't like the idea of there being only one option for what to play (that being the latest patch option)... well that's what mods are for. It's the same with any game really.

 

[Kainser]

If you want the game to remain static then you should probably just make a copy of the game folder so that it doesn't get patched.

 

[Illanair]

Your problem is not the dlc policy but the free patch.

This - You're playing a game where instead of issues with DLC mismatch preventing you from playing with others, you actually get to play with them (or the AI) regardless.

The only thing you pay for is access to these features yourself - Paradox have even been so nice to turn off parts of these DLC for balance (retinues for one) to avoid overpowered factions.

 

[SketchingDays]

All DLC did that... They all changed the way the game played, for everyone. The muslim nations play differently since their DLC came then how they played before, there was no retinues before the byzantine DLC... And the republics now play differently then they used to before.

Though I could understand the desire to keep the game as is, complaining about Francia becoming a republic is the same as complaining that France became muslim territory... It's what is fun in this game, how it starts as historical and becomes a living mess once you play it.

One thing that seems true is that christians + christian merchants is just too much for the iberian and north african muslims at the moment. So hopefully they somehow make them stronger in futur patches, in my current game Genoa is slowly eating up all of iberia and north africa : /

 

[Klarum]

Your problem is not the dlc policy but the free patch.

The free patch is a result of the implementation of the DLC. This was done because of the DLC policy of making possible for players with different DLCs to still be able to play togheter in multiplayer.

In my first game with 1.09 the HRE roflstomped Pisa and Venice out of existence within the first 50 years of the game, i don't think you can speak of a general trend based on ONLY THREE games.

Apparently you have been missing the amount of posts stating Republic overexpansion and the number of people asking how to disable several aspects of Republic game mechanics. More importantly you COMPLETELY missed the point of the post which is ONLY about how the game was changed even for people who did not buy the DLC.

This - You're playing a game where instead of issues with DLC mismatch preventing you from playing with others, you actually get to play with them (or the AI) regardless.

Ah yes that 5% of people that actually play multiplayer. Any company should definitly catter to the 5% of their customers.

 

[liamgamer55]

If you want the game to remain static then you should probably just make a copy of the game folder so that it doesn't get patched.

Indeed, that's a good option. That way you can choose to play whichever version you want. I.e. in practice you'd probably play a patch version until you get bored of it, then do a bit of reading up on what's changed instead of having the game be totally different each time if you only play it once a month.

Apparently you have been missing the amount of posts stating Republic overexpansion and the number of people asking how to disable several aspects of Republic game mechanics. More importantly you COMPLETELY missed the point of the post which is ONLY about how the game was changed even for people who did not buy the DLC.

For some reason every new dlc that focuses on a certain style of gameplay (e.g. sword of islam, byzantine one etc) seems to make the affected titles severely overpowered. Give it a few patches and the republics will be a bit less rigged again. That or play mods so that things are a bit more balanced.

 

[horizon1984]

I can't understand motivations of some people. Let me get that straight... You are complaining about Paradox expanding the game ( in free patches ) ?
If you don't like new additions then just learn how to prevent steam from patching CK2 ffs. That simple. And do not force everyone else to play v1.0 just because you don't like new content.

 

[Klarum]

If you don't like new additions then just learn how to prevent steam from patching CK2 ffs.

It is a PAID DLC which i choose not to buy yet it still changed my game. I exercised my right as a customer to not buy something that would change the game yet the company still changed it. That is the point. I dont want V1.0 because I do want all the bug fixes and other corrections.

Do you flame trolls even read people's posts?

 

[Manic Eskimo]

I don't agree with you but I do feel your pain. I was very unhappy with a couple of Vicky2 patches which altered the game in a way that made it next to impossible for small countries. However, for those of us who have played this game to death any change is fantastic as it breathes new life into the game and allows us to play on.

 

[Nori_Silverrage]

I can't understand motivations of some people. Let me get that straight... You are complaining about Paradox expanding the game ( in free patches ) ?
If you don't like new additions then just learn how to prevent steam from patching CK2 ffs. That simple. And do not force everyone else to play v1.0 just because you don't like new content.

+1 Totally agree.

 

[Rancor26]

You can't always please everybody... Just because you don't like it doesn't mean they should change it. If the Republics would have been in the game since the beginning would you still be complaining? No, you would've been used to it, now you just can't take the changes because you are used to play the game the old way even though the changes are not that big to begin with, you're exaggerating. I like what they've done to the game and i like the free patches. I can safely say many other people agree with me since the DLC's are selling well.

Whatever Paradox does it's always going to annoy someone, that's just what game developers have to get used to. It's not like their DLC and game patching policy is new or something, look at EU3 for example and how it has changed over years...

 

[liamgamer55]

It is a PAID DLC which i choose not to buy yet it still changed my game. I exercised my right as a customer to not buy something that would change the game yet the company still changed it. That is the point. I dont want V1.0 because I do want all the bug fixes and other corrections.

Do you flame trolls even read people's posts?

The DLC doesn't really directly change the game.

Before DLC: Republics aren't playable
After dlc: Republics aren't playable if you don't buy it
Before DLC: Republics act in a simple manner and aren't a threat
After DLC: Republics act in a more complicated manner and are a threat

Republics might not be balanced but that actually has nothing to do with you buying the DLC or not. Whether or not you buy the DLC it still involves kingdoms getting trampled by massive republican empires. Bad balance is annoying but that's something that sometimes happens in any patching, it has nothing to do with you not buying a product.

 

[theKing1988]

The free patch is a result of the implementation of the DLC. This was done because of the DLC policy of making possible for players with different DLCs to still be able to play togheter in multiplayer.



Apparently you have been missing the amount of posts stating Republic overexpansion and the number of people asking how to disable several aspects of Republic game mechanics. More importantly you COMPLETELY missed the point of the post which is ONLY about how the game was changed even for people who did not buy the DLC.




Ah yes that 5% of people that actually play multiplayer. Any company should definitly catter to the 5% of their customers.

Try to calm down dude, as liamgamer said, there is usually problems with new content not being totally balanced when it is introduced, but this will be sorted out within a couple of patches.

And i was only stating my game as an example, to show you, that things can easily go another way.

 

[Comradebot]

My only problem with the Republics, I think, are they get holy wars. Combine those with their massive merc capabilities, and the North Africans are still getting smashed on a regular basis, only they're getting painted a different color.

 

[Lord Flash]

I wonder what the opinion of 1.091 players might be if CK2 became a 1st person shooter in 1.10?

 

[Thure]

I wonder what the opinion of 1.091 players might be if CK2 became a 1st person shooter in 1.10?

head > desk

Some additional content in the patch is like to change the genre of the game?