Paradox Celebrates International Women’s Day With DLC

[legionek]

Where is my LGBT in history dlc?

 

[seeds24]

Where is my LGBT in history dlc?

I want my muslim lesbian advisor !

 

[Krajzen]

List of all great women included, and tags where they are available.


OTTOMAN EMPIRE - 5

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Kösem Sultan
Roxelana
Ayse Hafsa Sultan
Safiye Sultan
Nurbanu Sultan

ENGLAND/GREAT BRITAIN/USA - 10

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Queen Elizabeth the Great
Queen Catherine the Great
Mary Wollstonecraft
Aphra Behn
Jane Austen
Anne Boleyn
Margaret of Anjou
Elizabeth Wilbraham
Abigail Adams - USA
Martha Washington - USA

RUSSIA - 6

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Yekaterina Romanovna Vorontsova-Dashkova
Anna Bunina
Sophia Alekseyevna
Elizabeth of Russia
Anna of Russia
Queen Catherine II the Great

FRANCE - 7

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Catherine de Medici
Julie d'Aubigny
Sophie Germain
Marie Antoinette
Marie Crous
Olympe de Gouges
Madame Tussaud

HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, ITALY - 9

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Maria Theresa - Austria
Amalie Elisabeth - Hesse
Caterina Sforza - all Italy
Louise of Mecklenburg-Strelitz - Prussia
Elena Cornaro Piscopia - Venice
Eliza Lucas - Hesse
Maria Sibylla Merian - Frankfurt
Barbara of Cilli
Maria Carolina of Austria - Napoli

IBERIA - 6

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La Malinche
Inés de Suárez
Juana Ines de la Cruz
Queen Isabella
Catherine of Aragon
Jeanne d'Albret - Navarra

EASTERN EUROPE - 6

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Ilona Zrinyi - Croatia, Hungary
Urszula Meyerin - PLC
Elzbieta Helena Sieniawska - PLC
Franciszka Urszula Radziwillowa - PLC
Marie Louise Gonzaga - PLC
Mary of Hungary - Hungary, Bohemia, Netherlands

REST OF EUROPE - 12

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Queen Christina - Sweden
Germaine de Stael - Sweden
Vendela Skytte - Sweden, Scandinavia
Dorothea of Saxe-Lauenburg - Denmark
Gráinne Ní Mháille - owns Ireland
Margaret of Austria, Duchess of Savoy - Netherlands
Isabella Clara Eugenia - Netherlands
Angelica Kauffman - Italy, Switzerland, England
Anne Bonny - Ireland
Lucrezia Borgia - Papacy
Inion Dubh - Scotland, Ireland
Kenau Simonsdochter Hasselaer - Netherlands

AFRICA - 5

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Nzinga of Ndongo and Matamba - Ndongo
Amina - Zazzau
Eleni of Ethiopia - Ethopia
Queen Pokou - Ashanti
Mentewab - Ethiopia

ISLAM - 6

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Siti Wan Kembang - owns Malacca
Pari Khan Khanum - Persia
Nazo Tokhi - Afghanistan
Sayyida al Hurra - Muslim
Nora of Kelmendi - Albania, Ottomans
Tun Fatimah - Malacca

INDIA - 11

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Mariam-uz-Zamani - Mughals
Tarabai - Maratha
Roshanara Begum - Mughals
Rani Abbakka Chowta
Meera Bai - Hindu
Rani Durgavati - Gondwana
Rani Mangammal - Madurai
Nur Jahan - Mughals
Mumtaz Mahal - Mughals, Timurids
Ahilyabai Holkar - Maratha, Malwa
Roshanara Begum - Mughals

NATIVE AMERICA - 4

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Sacagawea - USA
Kateri Tekakwitha - Catholic, own Manhattan or Algonquin
Anacaona - own Caribbean province
Nanyehi - Cherokee, USA

FAR EAST - 12

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Mandukhai Khatun - Mongolia
Ho Xuan Huong - Ddai Viet
Ohatsu - Japan, Daimyo
Empress Dowager Xiaozhuang - Ming, Qing
Kaihime - Japan, Daimyo
Qin Liangyu - Ming
Wang Zhenyi - Ming, Qing
Suriyothai - Ayutthaia
Izumo no Okuni - Japan, Daimyo
Ratu Hijau - Pattani
Ching Shih - Qing
Heo Nanseolheon - Korea

 

[frolix42]

So according to you, I am "mad, ridiculous, have had bad upringing and education, have no understanting of human psychology, alone in my sad views". That's a bit much for one man, don't you think ? especially after only reading 2-3 post of me on a public forum.

By my count you've posted 16 times on this thread...with gems such as...

One other problem is that focusing on the role of some women in politics, military, science etc... has the consequence of overlooking the role of women who raised children and were the centerpiece of the traditional family. That is a big problem of feminism, also today : belittling and despising the stay-at-home mothers and wives (who also worked, had an important social role in the community ec...).
Feminism in not only a war against men, it is also a war against women who wish to focus on the beautiful and important role of raising children.

Some striking similarities.

For who can denie but it repugneth to nature, that the blind shal be appointed to leade and conduct such as do see? That the weake, the sicke, and impotent persones shall norishe and kepe the hole and strong, and finallie, that the foolishe, madde and phrenetike shal gouerne the discrete, and giue counsel to such as be sober of mind? And such be al women, compared vnto man in bearing of authoritie. For their sight in ciuile regiment, is but blindnes: their strength, weaknes: their counsel, foolishenes: and judgement, phrenesie, if it be rightlie considered.

The real target of Knox's diatribe against female rulers in general was his current monarch, Mary I, for the most part because she was Catholic. The biggest irony was that when the Protestant Elizabeth I ascended the throne, for some reason she didn't take kindly to John Knox's imprudent attack on female rulers in general.

 

[Ivashanko]

Wade-Giles makes my eyes bleed.

Pinyin is much less rational than Wades-Giles, imho.

 

[toroltao]

Pinyin is much less rational than Wades-Giles, imho.

They're both dumb. Bopomofo is the most optimized.

 

[Puking Panda]

It's not wholly deterministic, closer to DHEs from what I can see. For instance, the Catherine the Great event:

# Queen Catherine II (the Great) (1729-1796)
country_event = {
	id = women_history_events.2
	title = women_history_events.2.t
	desc = women_history_events.2.d
	picture = wihgfx_FEMALE_RULER_eventPicture

	trigger = {
		tag = RUS
		is_year = 1729
		NOT = {
			is_year = 1800
		}
		is_female = no
		has_regency = no
		is_lesser_in_union = no
		NOT = {
			OR = {
				ADM = 3
				DIP = 3
				MIL = 3
			}
		}
		OR = {
			has_heir = no
			has_female_heir = no
		}
		NOT = {
			has_global_flag = wih_catherine_rus_flag
		}
	} 
	
	mean_time_to_happen = {
		months = 200
	}
	
	immediate = {
		hidden_effect = {
			set_global_flag = wih_catherine_rus_flag
		}
	}
	
	option = {
		name = women_history_events.2.a
		define_ruler = {
			name = "Yekaterina"
			dynasty = "Romanov"
			adm = 6
			dip = 6
			mil = 5
			female = yes
		}
	}
	option = {
		name = women_history_events.2.b
		add_adm_power = 100
		add_dip_power = 100
		add_mil_power = 100
		define_advisor = {
			female = yes
			type = statesman #spymaster
			skill = 2
			name = "Yekaterina Romanov"
		}
	}
}

Requires a weak ruler, and no heir.

EDIT: Like, believe me, if it was EU2 style 'on this date you get X ruler/advisor'? I'd turn it off. But it's not like that, from all the events I can see in the files.

The event forces the Romanov dynasty on a Russian state, this should be removed. Catherine married into House Romanov but what if House Romanov never rose in your game but instead the Rurikovich ruler remained for example? Considering your not following history in this game she should instead inherit the dynasty of the previous ruler which is implied to be her husband(trigger = female = no).

 

[zdlugasz]

Fascinating.

Correct me if I'm wrong - you've got nothing against the events that make female characters advisors(which most of the WiH events seem to do) but only object to events that also have the option to make them rulers? Or even more generally - historical railroading is bad only if it affects who the current ruler is? That is to say, who cares if advisors or trade goods or Burgundian Inheritance happens, it's the occasional and rare ruler that really is the problem?

I have doubts that you can comprehend what I am writing.

My first and foremost concern of Isabell is forced railoading due to the Wedding (which is the same kind of DHE like Burgundian)

1) I have really no idea what do you mean about trade goods in the context of Isabel of Castille, or Women DLC in general
2) yes, I find advisors harmless, since as I said you get some anyway, and generated advisor might be be wrong type anyway, thus blocking place where we hope to receive statesman, trader, etc
although I find number of monarch points added to them excessive (usually "great men" as opposite to women give you 10-25 points of one type, and I will skip frolic comment which could appear here)
Potential advisor does exactly 0 railroading, unless there is overpowered event chain which depends on such adviser

3) I object railroading, thus Isabell is incorporated evil for me, and I find no or little basis for the most of queens suddenly taking over, although some, like Catherine are plausible

 

[Kusanagi]

By my count you've posted on this thread 16 times on this thread...with gems such as...

Oh, I'm sure he will continue to flatter us with his wisdom before this thread is locked and purged... plenty already through to make my judgement as to his character.

Some striking similarities.

The real target of Knox's diatribe against female rulers in general was his current monarch, Mary I, for the most part because she was Catholic. The biggest irony was that when the Protestant Elizabeth I ascended the throne, for some reason she didn't take kindly to John Knox's imprudent attack on female rulers in general.

I'm just going to stop poking him with a stick and hand the baton over to you as you're doing a much better job of it. This is great stuff. I'm grinning from ear to tear. Turning into a history lesson too to boot.

 

[ChildeR]

The DLC isn't a DLC.

The new women are in the patch, new event file. Silly marketing terminology.

All the events of all the DLCs are in there with the patches. They just don't fire unless you have the DLC installed. Nothing new, just an implementation detail to do with the fact that the host's DLCs have to be available to all players in MP. (There are probably other reasons, but that's an obvious one.)

 

[seeds24]

I'm just going to stop poking him with a stick and hand the baton over to you as you're doing a much better job of it. This is great stuff. I'm grinning from ear to tear. Turning into a history lesson too to boot.

I have no idea how you can see a similarity between the views of this John Knox fellow and mine. For instance I have a deep admiration for Isabel of Castile.

 

[benice1234]

So is it up yet?

 

[TheChronoMaster]

The event forces the Romanov dynasty on a Russian state, this should be removed. Catherine married into House Romanov but what if House Romanov never rose in your game but instead the Rurikovich ruler remained for example? Considering your not following history in this game she should instead inherit the dynasty of the previous ruler which is implied to be her husband(trigger = female = no).

That I can definitely agree with, the dynasty should probably be undefined (or defined as PREV or something, I dunno how it works).

 

[Kusanagi]

No, you're just not allowed to "argue" based on fallacies and get a free pass just because you shout loudly.

But arguing with your type is pointless. The Dunning–Kruger effect applies not just to skills, basically meaning a bigot cannot know they are a bigot, because the (lack of) cognitive tools to be a bigot precludes the bigot from knowing what a bigot is (i.e. they lack an understanding of the thing with which to reference themselves with). However, if you ever find yourself using the phrase "I'm not allowed to do/say/think x without getting called (a) bigot/misogynist/sexist/idiot", it's usually a handy hint letting you know that you are.

EDIT: If you are able to construct a statement of why your opinions are valid and worth listening to, I promise I shall read it. However, I do not fear for my time.

EDIT 2: If only the DLC could appear in my launcher I'd stop reading this hilarious thread and go play.

 

[Vaximillian]

EDIT 2: If only the DLC could appear in my launcher I'd stop reading this hilarious thread and go play.

Do you have Songs of Yuletide enabled and installed in Steam? It seems to be the reason why Women in History is/are inactive.

 

[frolix42]

Do you have Songs of Yuletide enabled and installed in Steam? It seems to be the reason why Women in History is/are inactive.

I have both enabled/active.

 

[MoonshineMax]

I doon't have Songs of Yuletide and I can't see Women in History. I have:

Star & Crescent
Conquest of Paradise
Wealth of Nations
Res Publica
Art of War
El Dorado
Conquest of Constantinople Music
Horsemen of the Crescent Units

But no Women in History, anywhere.

 

[Vaximillian]

I have both enabled/active.

Sorry, I must have explained more clearly. I meant you won't have Women in History active and listed in the launcher unless you have Songs of Yuletide installed and checked in Steam.

I doon't have Songs of Yuletide and I can't see Women in History. I have:

Star & Crescent
Conquest of Paradise
Wealth of Nations
Res Publica
Art of War
El Dorado
Conquest of Constantinople Music
Horsemen of the Crescent Units

But no Women in History, anywhere.

Women in History doesn't appear in Steam as a separate DLC. Install Songs of Yuletide (you don't have to activate it in the launcher) and Women in History should show up in the launcher.

 

[MoonshineMax]

Well that's stupid.

 

[Vaximillian]

Well that's stupid.

It might be a bug or something with Steam and is definitely not WAD.