Paradox Celebrates International Women’s Day With DLC

[josh127]

Nice job on this Paradox. I've seen it asked for in the forums, and it ties in well. Besides, it gave you an opportunity to throw out names that I don't know to go look up! (Eleanor of Aquitaine?)

 

[leadshooter69]

Advisors having a religion could be quite useful

I feel like to add that and have it be meaningful there should be a rework of the advisor system, which I am in favor of.

 

[Wizzington]

WhiskeyGlen, you are banned from this thread. Take your insecurities elsewhere.

 

[Fintilgin]

Will a natural, randomly generated 5-6 military Queen be able to become a general, or will there be an event letting her do so? I think that'd be pretty cool. It shouldn't be open to everyone, but if you get the rare 6 military Queen she should be able to lay down the law.

 

[ZomgK3tchup]

Is there a chance that we can get these portraits as avatars on the forum?

 

[zach6844]

Is there a chance that we can get these portraits as avatars on the forum?

+1.

this would be really cool, actually.

 

[Fintilgin]

Is there a chance that we can get these portraits as avatars on the forum?

They've said they're looking into this, earlier in the thread.

 

[An Elder Thing]

Just base rate for now.

At least, there is the option. Should be useful for modders, a Dragon Age or TES mod for example.

 

[Zylathas]

Well I am happy we get this DLC. Paradox did not have to do it and still adds it so that's cool.

Also any DLC that might some more correct dynasties for EU IV is awesome. I hope Elizabet will bring a Tudor dynasty to EU IV?

Also I hope these complaints won't lead to Paradox not doing these kind of DLC's anymore, as I for one do enjoy them.

 

[JBurke]

Oh god, you gave us options. Now I want to request a Matriarchy government type in Nation Designer! Why did you do this to me?!?!

Seriously though, I love it. Thank you for adding this and for free (I would have paid).

 

[CiderMuffin]

Paradox, I love you for this. I hope you add in a lot more historical women throughout the world.

 

[Ralepozozaxe]

This may have been already answered without me noticing, but are the portraits different between the various culture packs. Such as: Do Native Americans have unique female portraits?

And if not: Might this be added later?

 

[Spartanlemur]

No need. Men are not underrepresented in EU4; the game is full of them.

I'm mildly disappointed that this is being marked as a separate DLC, mind you.

Why are you disappointed that it's a separate DLC? Do you think that other people should not have a choice of whether they want to use it or not?

I like the general idea of the DLC, but I have concerns about it. Will female advisors be as common as males? Will there be Muslim female advisors? Are the events just flavour or will they railroad the game and make things harder (i.e. I want my Lancaster dynasty to survive the whole game, and not have a queen who causes a succession crisis *all* the time). Has this been done with concern for historical accuracy (will female advisors be as rare as they were in history)?

I'm probably not going to use the DLC myself, at least not in the majority of my games (for the above concerns). There's no need to cry out for intolerance towards people who want a historically authentic experience. I'll probably give this a go, as it's free, but Paradox are making a good decision on the basis of strong customer service when they allow us the choice of whether to use it or not.

Paradox are a business who take care of their diverse range of customers, and the way they're implementing this is commendable.

 

[ZomgK3tchup]

I like the general idea of the DLC, but I have concerns about it. Will female advisors be as common as males? Will there be Muslim female advisors? Are the events just flavour or will they railroad the game and make things harder (i.e. I want my Lancaster dynasty to survive the whole game, and not have a queen who causes a succession crisis *all* the time). Has this been done with concern for historical accuracy (will female advisors be as rare as they were in history)?

According to here, female advisors will not be as common as male advisors.

Wiz said they were "rare" which probably means something like 1%.

 

[Spartanlemur]

According to here, female advisors will not be as common as male advisors.

Wiz said they were "rare" which probably means something like 1%.

Ah. Then I probably will keep this DLC ticked!

 

[Edungeon]

This DLC is awesome. All the posters complaining about it are oblivious to how much they are a caricature of themselves.

The most amusing are those complaining about this being "PC" or about how "feminists" are abusing their wonderful, patriarchal history. I think feminists would say that women have had a huge impact on their societies even despite male domination, but that their contributions routinely are underplayed if not ignored. It is like the Pharaoh Hatshepsut - she was a woman, but due to her patriarchal society, many of the depictions of her were androgynous if not male. The Egyptian state was forced to hide the femininity of their leader. Yes, there were more male pharaohs, but the feminists don't deny that - what they assert is merely that our view of historically relevant women is shaped by patriarchal assumptions existing both at the time and today. That is the irony of those folks who loathe feminists and the supposed "revision" of history their criticism engenders. Any suggestion that women had a hand in things is taken as an affront to men, or a dishonest revision of history. It sounds like some "Men's Rights Activists" types are the REAL ones obsessed with being "politically correct" - their line is that men made history, and any suggestion otherwise must categorically be wrong. They shut down rational discourse by insulting feminist scholars and deny the opportunity for real historical reflection. They moan and groan about how offended they are, and how there isn't a "Men's day" or whatever, as if men needed a special day to recognize the accomplishments that they are anyways honored for already.

Also amusing are those who complain about the socialist heritage of women's day. Picasso and Einstein were socialists, we don't throw out all of their work. Likewise, if a socialist came up with a woman's day, there is no reason to reject it due to guilt by association. Even moreso if one understands that many "socialists" were on the forefront of civil rights struggles for women and poc while liberals waffled and conservatives largely opposed it.

This was a good read. Thank you.

 

[Billzor91]

I just can't believe there's this much backlash to something that feature women a bit more.

 

[Meneth]

Oh god, you gave us options. Now I want to request a Matriarchy government type in Nation Designer! Why did you do this to me?!?!

That'd actually be pretty neat.
Would let you make an Amazonians nation or similar.

(This opinion is purely my own. I do not affect development decisions)

 

[neondt]

Ah. Then I probably will keep this DLC ticked!

With regards to one of your other questions, judging by the screenshots it looks like the events that create monarchs will have an option not to use them. Looks like you can chose to make them advisers instead. Yay options.

http://www.europauniversalis4.com/sites/default/files/screenshots/eu4_246.png
http://www.europauniversalis4.com/sites/default/files/screenshots/eu4_244.png

 

[comandi]

very very cool. one more reason to love paradox

==> but why on earth nerf espionage and looting. that is really really bad...