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I have reproduced this bug several times. I have the latest build, all DLC, but disable Sunset Invasion.

This bug has multiple pieces. The context is that I am King of Bohemia inside the HRE and that I have 2 Prince-Bishoprics among my vassals.

First, I can use the "Nominate Bishop" to get one of my non-inheriting dynasty bastards as the next Bishop. However, it only ever seems to apply to the top-listed Prince-Bishopric. There is no way to specify which Bishopric I want. I can nominate multiple candidates as Bishops (both dynasty members and non-dynasty members) and they simply drop into line from top-listed Prince-Bishopric to second-listed Prince-Bishopric and so on. I don't know if we are supposed to have choice in which Bishopric they are nominated to, but I definitely cannot choose. This might be working as intended but please confirm.

Second (and this cannot possibly be working as intended), despite having nominees designated for specific Prince-Bishoprics, whenever I assassinate the current Prince-Bishop, the nominee is simply bypassed and a brand new Prince-Bishop is generated to replace the assassination victim. The identity of the assassin is not discovered, so this can't be some kind of penalty against my dynasty. One time the candidate that I had nominated and was approved and slotted in by the Pope was married without children, and as the assassination triggered, I paused and looked up his wife - at the time I checked, she was not registered as being married. I un-paused, let the clock run a few days, and clicked on her character sheet again - now she was listed as being married, as it had been before the assassination. I also checked the holding, and a new Prince-Bishop was now occupying the slot to which my dynasty bastard had previously been nominated by the Pope. The nomination was also no longer showing on the 'Religion' tab that displays all Bishops, though a different character's nomination was still intact (the one slotted in above the dynasty bastard, a non-dynasty member still retaining his nomination for the first Prince-Bishopric).

Is the non-inheriting, illegitimate bastard trigger somehow getting confused with the Papal nomination system? In other words, is the game not recognizing that the character's illegitimacy should only affect his own dynasty's inheritance laws, and not generic inheritance laws, in this case the inheritance laws of the Pope/clergy?
 
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This sounds very interesting. Do you perhaps have a savegame/savegames where this behaviour can be observed? It'd be really handy when tracking down these issues. It sounds like it'd be time consuming to replicate your exact circumstances, so any help is appreciated!

Thanks for the report.