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Diplomacy--> Papal Actions-->Call Crusade
You can only call a crusade on Catholic heathens. I can't remember if it gives a cb or not, but I don't think so. All crusade does is give you buffs to income, prestige, manpower, etc.
You can only call a crusade on Catholic heathens. I can't remember if it gives a cb or not, but I don't think so. All crusade does is give you buffs to income, prestige, manpower, etc.
It is currently bugged in that you have to be Catholic AND border the target country to get the CB. You shouldn't need the border.
So I can call for crusade only after I declare war? What exactly is a "Catholic heathen"?
Anything that isn't a type of Christian. So can call for Crusades against Pagans, Muslims or even the Eastern Religions.
I see crusades against the Aztecs more than you might think
I see crusades against the Aztecs more than you might think
Lots of stuff. Anything that isn't catholic or a catholic heresy. For example, Sunni, Shiite, Hindu, and Buddhist among others are catholic heathens while orthodox, Protestant, reformed, etc. are catholic heresies.
That's not an actual bug, it's intended.
Note that any nation at war with a crusade target will receive the crusade benefits. You only don't get the CB if you don't neighbour. So it can still be worth calling a crusade even without a border. As long as you can find another CB to go to war with, you will get the crusade bonuses during the war. And you can stack a crusade war against an easy foe with another war against a tough enemy, and benefit from the bonuses in both conflicts.
You call for crusade any time. It lasts 30 years, unless the target ceases to exist before then.
after declaring it, you will get the CB if you have a border. If you don't now, but get a border later, you will get the CB as soon as you do. Same applies for all other Catholic nations.
If you can't get the CB, declare war with some other CB and you will get the crusade bonuses as soon as you're at war.
There's not much point declaring the crusade before you're ready to Dow them, unless of course you're wanting other Catholics, who do border them to dow.
But you don't need to wait until after the war starts. I usually declare first then Dow when the crusade is announced.
Bear in mind the 30 year expiry, and don't waste a crusade on a little nation you'll only fight once, unless you expect to full annex them thus enabling a new crusade to be called before 30 years.
Finally, crusades are no longer available after 1650.
Why do you say this? It doesn't seem to make any sense to me to have it restricted like this.
I don't have a developer quote confirming 100% that it's WAD. But it almost certainly is, because:
- It's a one-line text file change, the most trivial of fixes, that could have been changed easily in 1.2 or 1.3 if it was indeed a bug.
- It is consistent with the majority of other CBs - most CBs require a border, especially the powerful ones.
- It's consistent with the overall design of the game: requiring slow, steady progress with an emphasis on borders; e.g. most CBs as I mentioned, restrictions on coring, selling provinces, Fabricate Claims.
- Curia Controller is already awesome with its bonuses and neighbouring-required excomm and Crusade CBs. It would be OP if these CBs did not require that.
I used to dislike it, as others here do, but I'm now starting to quite like such restrictions. It requires more planning and strategy when you have to take certain territory first, which might itself require taking certain other territory first, and so on. You can't just get Curia and spam CBs across the other side of the world, you have to build up to a position where you can use it. It requires more thought. More sub-plans in your master-plan.
And besides, all you're missing without a border is the CB. You get the Crusade bonuses whenever you're at war with the target, whatever CB (or no CB) you used to DOW.
So, worst case, send them a loan for them to renege on, then DOW with that CB. Then enjoy the lovely bonuses. Perhaps even mix this crusade war with other wars, and enjoy the smooth, refreshing taste of Crusade bonuses on all.
Remember to drink your Crusade bonuses responsibly.