Papacy and other questions

[Zuru84]

Hi guys,

I have a few questions:

1.Is it possible to fabricate claims for Papacy and take control under it? What will happen after that? Pope will become my vassal?
2.What if I will swear fealty to the Pope? I will become a part of Papacy but after that anyone will dare to attack me (I am talking about catholic rulers)? How does it works?
3.Where can I check health points of my character?
4.Paradox changed something in de jure claims? I no longer have claims to Mumu even if I am controlling more than 51% of the counties in this duchy? I am able to attack county which is part of this duchy but i do not see it in my characters dashboard in claims line.

 

[Rationalsanity]

1. You can fabricate claims on the Pope's counties but not on the Papacy. The only way to vassalize the Pope is to be a Catholic Emperor, create an anti-Pope and then install him. Unless the Pope is already vassalized, this is very easy.

2. The Pope isn't that powerful, so the AI will go after him if they have CBs. He does have a significant amount of money though, so he can buy a lot of mercs and holy orders. The Papacy isn't worth hiding under, unless you are an Italian count surrounded by Muslims or something.

3. Use ~ to open the console and type "charinfo" and mouse over the character you want. Type it again to hide the info.

4. You should be able to subjugate the count and make him your vassal.

 

[Zuru84]

1. You can fabricate claims on the Pope's counties but not on the Papacy. The only way to vassalize the Pope is to be a Catholic Emperor, create an anti-Pope and then install him. Unless the Pope is already vassalized, this is very easy.

4. You should be able to subjugate the count and make him your vassal.

1.So only Catholic Emperor can set up anti pope? Also why I can't fabricate claims on Papacy if I can sent my steward to do that? Is it a bug?

4.I am able to declare war using de jure claim for this suchy however i do not see it in my characters dashboard in claims line. De jure claims are just not there?

 

[Rationalsanity]

1.So only Catholic Emperor can set up anti pope? Also why I can't fabricate claims on Papacy if I can sent my steward to do that? Is it a bug?

4.I am able to declare war using de jure claim for this suchy however i do not see it in my characters dashboard in claims line. De jure claims are just not there?

1. Any Catholic character (with free investiture, a bishop that likes you more than the Pope, and enough piety) can set up an anti-Pope. But only an Emperor tier character will vassalize the Pope after installing their puppet. A King/Duke/Count will install their Anti-Pope (who will be very grateful), but he'll be independent because only an Emperor can vassalize a King-tier character.

You can't fabricate a claim on the Papacy because its a titular and king tier title. That action only works on counties and (if your guy is skilled enough and lucky) duchies. So you could take all the Popes landed titles, but he'd retain the Papacy. As an Irish Petty King its probably not worth it, just make sure the Pope doesn't hate you and maybe he'll give you money and divorces from time to time if you ask.

4. You don't have a claim on the county just because you own the de jure Duchy title. You have the right to force the count to be your vassal, but not to take the title.