Ah, brilliant! It seems that the Allies are going for a defensive strategy. That's good, the best and longest of your games started with a defensive strategy 
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Glad to see this is back on track. I didn't see a mention of M-R. Did you or the Sov player turn it down?
M-R pact was signed, Cpt just forgot to mention it in the shortened AAR post he made.
Those video clips give away all resources, IC and stuff like that - just a word of warning.
Anyways, I'm glad to see passive allies. It's always a bit disheartening to see France pushing immediately into Rhineland after war is declared or British making amphibious assaults.
Anyways, I'm glad to see passive allies. It's always a bit disheartening to see France pushing immediately into Rhineland after war is declared or British making amphibious assaults.
hehe so it begins!
say. by the HR. if japan is to declare war on SU or Allies, only then can a player move to USA correct? (which is BTW a F## genius Idea bound to encourage a more passive Japan. HA what an Irony.
say. by the HR. if japan is to declare war on SU or Allies, only then can a player move to USA correct? (which is BTW a F## genius Idea
bound to encourage a more passive Japan. HA what an Irony.
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They are acting scouts for Germany. As they are at peace it’s somewhat easier for them... I am not too keen in losing uboats on reconnaissance missions.
No - and we have never done so. We use vanilla last patch TFH with the some Carnage Group mods we used on the last game (Kings Carnage). I think they are good although I fear Germany might be a little weak initially. In Kings Carnage Germany drove to a complete halt in the Attack on the West.
Those video clips give away all resources, IC and stuff like that - just a word of warning.
Anyways, I'm glad to see passive allies. It's always a bit disheartening to see France pushing immediately into Rhineland after war is declared or British making amphibious assaults.
I know, but thanks for mentioning it. I have told the Allies to not look at the clips. It is just as bad as loading the German save file.
hehe so it begins!
say. by the HR. if japan is to declare war on SU or Allies, only then can a player move to USA correct? (which is BTW a F## genius Idea
Yeah, we have several mods and rules to inhibit a early Jap entry. There's also a two added strategic effects that act as a incentive for Japan and USA to be interested in the Pacific Theatre.
Exactly
There's two panzer divisions positioned in the West together with a decent amount of infantry. Oh, I will. Or at least I hope so. As mentioned above, I think War in the West will be tough and the lack of boots in Poland might also be due to my production line. More about that later, but my strategy is not for optimising the War on Poland... but the War on the West.
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Chapter III - The Battle for Poland
Played Countries: UK, FRA, POL*, SU, 2xGER, ITA, JAP
* Allies were one player short and thus we allowed Poland to exp all forces to UK (although not allowed by HR normally)
Recap: The diplomatic chess game has run its course, with Hungary and Slovakia now siding with Axis. Jugoslavia and Albania has been taken by the Italians. Germany, however, has been making claims on Danzig. The Poles refused and when the Germans attacked, the Allies supported the Poles and declared war on Germany.
See YouTube clip from last session on how the war was initiated.
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May 8th, 1939
Germany’s main push into Poland was in the center. The infantry broke the first line of defenders and then the Panzers blitzed forwards. Some turned northwards towards Lodz and some turned south towards Krakow. Erwin Rommel’s 1st Panzer infiltrated deep into the Polish center. “Schnellerheinz” Guderian of the 2nd army corps had special plans for Rommel. With the support of an elite engineer brigade he would use the gap to stab at Warzawa. The information about the city defense was a bit unclear but it was worth a chance.
According the initial plans, the Germans would attack all other cities than Warzawa but as the war unfolded there was a distinct chance that the war could be ended faster if the Polish army did not manage to fall back to the capital in time.
May 11th, 1939
Initially, the Polish defense south of Lwow seemed strong for the force the Obercommando had deployed in Hungary, especially as the Hungarian divisions just initiated their mobilization-process and were at some 20% strength only. Nevertheless, von Mackensen’s 11th Panzer had been pushing through the Polish infantry and reached the gates of Lwow. He awaited support of the 15th Infantry division before the attack was commenced on the key city.
The Poles had the numbers on their side, and the benefit of good defensive positions – but they consisted of militias, old school cavalry and regular infantry who recently stumbled into the city after their first terrible meeting with von Mackensen’s panzerskampwagens. Cities are not a suitable place to fight in for Panzers but von Mackensen recklessly pushed through the first line of defenders in the western outskirts of the city. He knew that preciously few of the enemies had weaponry that could scratch his panzers and moreover, just like Rommel’s 1st panzers, he had the luxury of having elite engineers to his disposal to open up blocked roads or blow up enemy nests or anything else that hindered their fast offensive. In part of the front, the Poles were completely blitz through and were panicked when supply lines were cut and the Germans shot at them from all angles. Still, street battles are a slow and bloody business. The Battle of Lwow will not be over fast.
May 12th - 14th, 1939
Live from the Carnage Group (YouTube). The German struggle for conquering Poland.
May 17th-18th, 1939
The battle of Warszawa raged on into its 6th day. It was far from a pleasant spring and the temperature dropped to some 4-5 degrees Celsius during nighttime and stayed around 10 during the day. For the soldiers struggling in the ruins this was just another source of misery.
As a motorized brigade had joined the battle from the eastern province of Praga, the city was now attacked from four sides and suffered for it. Still, the two infantry divisions were attacking across the river which hindered their efficiency.
Rommel’s panzers hade made a significant breakthrough, however, and part of the defenders had been isolated in pockets. They could not hope to last very long.
As the city fell, over a thousand German’s lay dead. Some commanders later criticized Hitler that the losses were unnecessary. Hitler would never agree. Although Poland would surrender even without the loss of Warszawa it was crucial for the coming occupation of the country that the people in the capital got to feel a taste of war, and that ruins were created as monuments over their loss.
May 18th, 1939
Even before Warszawa had fallen, Poland surrendered. All the other key cities had fallen and the capital was surrendered and under attack. The Polish leadership hoped to minimize the impacts on their capital and the Polish people in a battle that was already lost.
With further ado, Germany annexed Poland. Poland is no more.
This whole battle had been fought in less than three weeks without any real counter-measure from United Kingdom or France, except a few strategic bombing runs, hitting a few German factories and leading to a couple of air battles. It was the sitzkrieg.
Authors note: Poland fell before Warszawa had fallen. Thus, my initial plan worked. Due to Zid being away and the Polish forces exped to UK, they remained and the Battle of Warszawa actually continued until the 19th. Sir Henry playing UK disbanded all Polish units not engaged in battle but a few HQs had to be attacked in order to disappear.
Germany’s flank was now secured. It was time for the next phase of the plan…
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Authers note: Both these YouTube clips were made at the same session. I know my voice comes out a little weak but I had the mic to far away from my mouth. It will be better in the future.
Played Countries: UK, FRA, POL*, SU, 2xGER, ITA, JAP
* Allies were one player short and thus we allowed Poland to exp all forces to UK (although not allowed by HR normally)
Recap: The diplomatic chess game has run its course, with Hungary and Slovakia now siding with Axis. Jugoslavia and Albania has been taken by the Italians. Germany, however, has been making claims on Danzig. The Poles refused and when the Germans attacked, the Allies supported the Poles and declared war on Germany.
See YouTube clip from last session on how the war was initiated.
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May 8th, 1939
Germany’s main push into Poland was in the center. The infantry broke the first line of defenders and then the Panzers blitzed forwards. Some turned northwards towards Lodz and some turned south towards Krakow. Erwin Rommel’s 1st Panzer infiltrated deep into the Polish center. “Schnellerheinz” Guderian of the 2nd army corps had special plans for Rommel. With the support of an elite engineer brigade he would use the gap to stab at Warzawa. The information about the city defense was a bit unclear but it was worth a chance.
According the initial plans, the Germans would attack all other cities than Warzawa but as the war unfolded there was a distinct chance that the war could be ended faster if the Polish army did not manage to fall back to the capital in time.
May 11th, 1939
Initially, the Polish defense south of Lwow seemed strong for the force the Obercommando had deployed in Hungary, especially as the Hungarian divisions just initiated their mobilization-process and were at some 20% strength only. Nevertheless, von Mackensen’s 11th Panzer had been pushing through the Polish infantry and reached the gates of Lwow. He awaited support of the 15th Infantry division before the attack was commenced on the key city.
The Poles had the numbers on their side, and the benefit of good defensive positions – but they consisted of militias, old school cavalry and regular infantry who recently stumbled into the city after their first terrible meeting with von Mackensen’s panzerskampwagens. Cities are not a suitable place to fight in for Panzers but von Mackensen recklessly pushed through the first line of defenders in the western outskirts of the city. He knew that preciously few of the enemies had weaponry that could scratch his panzers and moreover, just like Rommel’s 1st panzers, he had the luxury of having elite engineers to his disposal to open up blocked roads or blow up enemy nests or anything else that hindered their fast offensive. In part of the front, the Poles were completely blitz through and were panicked when supply lines were cut and the Germans shot at them from all angles. Still, street battles are a slow and bloody business. The Battle of Lwow will not be over fast.
May 12th - 14th, 1939
Live from the Carnage Group (YouTube). The German struggle for conquering Poland.
May 17th-18th, 1939
The battle of Warszawa raged on into its 6th day. It was far from a pleasant spring and the temperature dropped to some 4-5 degrees Celsius during nighttime and stayed around 10 during the day. For the soldiers struggling in the ruins this was just another source of misery.
As a motorized brigade had joined the battle from the eastern province of Praga, the city was now attacked from four sides and suffered for it. Still, the two infantry divisions were attacking across the river which hindered their efficiency.
Rommel’s panzers hade made a significant breakthrough, however, and part of the defenders had been isolated in pockets. They could not hope to last very long.
As the city fell, over a thousand German’s lay dead. Some commanders later criticized Hitler that the losses were unnecessary. Hitler would never agree. Although Poland would surrender even without the loss of Warszawa it was crucial for the coming occupation of the country that the people in the capital got to feel a taste of war, and that ruins were created as monuments over their loss.
May 18th, 1939
Even before Warszawa had fallen, Poland surrendered. All the other key cities had fallen and the capital was surrendered and under attack. The Polish leadership hoped to minimize the impacts on their capital and the Polish people in a battle that was already lost.
With further ado, Germany annexed Poland. Poland is no more.
This whole battle had been fought in less than three weeks without any real counter-measure from United Kingdom or France, except a few strategic bombing runs, hitting a few German factories and leading to a couple of air battles. It was the sitzkrieg.
Authors note: Poland fell before Warszawa had fallen. Thus, my initial plan worked. Due to Zid being away and the Polish forces exped to UK, they remained and the Battle of Warszawa actually continued until the 19th. Sir Henry playing UK disbanded all Polish units not engaged in battle but a few HQs had to be attacked in order to disappear.
Germany’s flank was now secured. It was time for the next phase of the plan…
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Authers note: Both these YouTube clips were made at the same session. I know my voice comes out a little weak but I had the mic to far away from my mouth. It will be better in the future.
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Cool! So far so good, but everything is going suspiciously smoothly... I reckon the Allies have something else up their sleeves?
AFAIK the player earmarked for Poland couldn't show up so the UK player had to play both countries. This was somewhat alleviated by making the Polish forces expeditionary forces for the UK, but it still meant that the UK player had to juggle two countries at the same time while not having much of a clue of the original intend behind the force setup or disposition.
The good thing for the Axis is that nothing surprising has happened so far. No attacks on Denmark, Konigsberg etc.
BTW I think that the updates should cover a longer timeframe.
BTW I think that the updates should cover a longer timeframe.
Oh.... Thanks. Fixed.
Yes - part of is was probably to the lack of one player, but I also fear they are prepping something carefully, and didn't want a chaotic offensive war in Germany. I find offensive warfare against Germany post Barbarossa is extremly dangerous for the Allies. Or what would you have liked to see?
Zid would have been on UK, and Sir Henry on Poland. Honestly, in the -38 scenario I think nobody can get anything significant out of Poland. A few days here or there. It depends much more on what France and UK does, than on what Poland does.
I was fairly well prepped all around, actually. But a strong attack around Hamburg could possibly have been somewhat annoying - but I had a panzer division there as well.
Do you mean longer timeframe or longer posts? I think the Polish campaign is worthy of a chapter of their own. This time, due to Allied inactivity, I agree the Polish campaign was quite uneventful. Well - I can asure you more eventful days are awaiting around the corner.
Cheers
Oh, of that I'm sure. However, I think that it's better if you end the chapter with a hint of what's coming next, a surprising event or some info about future moves. You know, things that will keep the readers asking for MOAR
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