Pagan Tribal to MR capital city selection & reform.

[Seclouds]

The current situation is the 867 norse tribal with the norway & nearby kingdom,
I've played the pagan feudal and in this run try the MR.
Now I confused about the capital city/duchy and the religion reform.
I search the forums the suggestion capital is Crimea, Cypus etc, but it only has less than 5 holdings in the country.
I know that I should directly hold more cities in capital, so which duchy and city is better to pick & hold?
And the religion reform, the sea-bound doctrine is good to sail boat, and which nature & doctrine should I pick for MR?
Some doctrine is useless for MR. And I think the prepare invasion is a little sick...
The last question is the target of MR, the feudal gov wants to control more lands and be the powerful empire.
The MR's target is control more trade post, get more income, hire more retinue & mercenaries?

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And after reading your kind & warm replies, I have some new questions.

1. I've tried the Hierocratic on my Zunist & Christianity play. Pagan's hierocratic head is similar to the the Fraticelli papacy. I didn't play Orthodox before (bcs the byz purple make me feel bad), so don't understand what's that similar to... The ck2 wiki said it's like the Antipope (with GHW) and only work in releam? And by my understanding, the court chaplain will be the religion head inside my country. Bcs the reformed pagan don't have duchy level Patriarch can be vassalized.

2. Does the MR needs a huge land? And does the MR needs inland country? The direct holding is very limited... I need to spend 4 or 5 in capital, which holding should I keep for the rest 6 or 7 holding slots?

3. I don't understand the strategies of MR... The NPC MR always with huge number of tradeposts, and try to control the city, then control the country. If they have many coastal country, but with very few vassal limit, how can the MR grand mayor control the count level vassals and the levy of vassals? It's only about 25 vassal slots (mayor empire don't have Imperial administration). And to play as the norse, it can seize the post at the first, then use the coastal country conquest CB... And how many feudal vassal do I need?

After these, I compared the new religion reform system...
All I need is looting(norse bois could always loot), cheap ship, river navel, and the religion tax from suggestion & free vassal levy.
And I creepy dislike prepare invasion... I hope I can disable this feature.
The reform sys offer these feature as the Doctrine, I don't want to have the same limitation as the NPC, we have totally different requirement.
So I think even without religion tax, all the things except religion tax, the old germanic had already gotten... with offer 50% extra retinue.
The Fylkirian Crown is pretty cool, and If I keep the old germanic... Maybe let the new religion keep to pray my name as the High God is a good choice?
And in my saving I find a horse mayor in my releam, I didn't know why that happened to his dear lord ... And he called a none-horse-trait friend as the brony level trible noble.
Maybe I can let him be the reformed religion head? Horse and Norse, only one letter diff.

And few hours ago, the last saving about my game. The revolt stacked down my capital tribe and killed all my hire. WTF RNG is it.

 

[Crimson Grog]

I search the forums the suggestion capital is Crimea, Cypus etc, but it only has less than 5 holdings in the country.

You can get a prosperity event for your crown focus county where you pay a large sum of money for an additional holding slot. This event can occur more than once, allowing your crown focus to eventually have the maximum of 7 holdings.

Edut: Just wanted to add that prosperity requires The Reaper's Due DLC.

 

[WJS]

As a Norse MR, you don't need a large kingdom. Most people would recommend Sjaelland or Gotland as the capital for a Norse MR. Sjaelland is also a Germanic holy site and has a large number of holdings, so it is a good capital candidate.

Reformations for a Norse MR: Sons of Ragnarok is Daring + Sea-Bound. It is okay, but mainly for the Sea-Bound portion. As an MR you will have lots of ships, so why not make them cheap to maintain? The Daring portion? It gives prepared invasions, which isn't important except for your vassals, but it also gives access to the Viking traits, which you might still like. You will still be able to raid (whether or not you choose Sons of Ragnarok), and why not raid and make even more money with your troops and ships, and why not gain Viking traits for raiding?

After that, focus on money and alliances. Religious Tax is useful, and Polygamy means more wives and more alliances. Don't take Polygamy for more women leading to more children, though; you'll still have concubinage and plenty of women that way. Agnatic Clans won't help, and Enatic Clans just breaks the game with MR.

For a reformed Germanic MR faith, I recommend Peaceful, Religious Tax, Sons of Ragnarok, and either Temporal or Autonomous. Note that Peaceful + Sea-Bound is incompatible, but Peaceful + Sons of Ragnarok is compatible.

 

[Zsrai]

Pre-HF (so no reformation options) I did this with the Curonians. It doesn't really matter how many holdings your duchy has off hand, since you can just increase the holdings if you have RD. I got Riga up to 7 slots before I even turned into an MR I think, and got most of my other counties that high too (had the duchies of Curonia and... Zemigallia? the one below it before HF changes). Being set up in the Baltic gave me a pretty uncontested set of sea zones to control for the extra income too... which is probably more important than how many base holdings your capital has. Isle of Man is good for this, even though it's a 1 county duchy, since there are a lot of ports touching the Irish Sea.

 

[Woifee]

I’m sure you can get the viking trait even without Sons of Ragnarok.

 

[WJS]

You're probably right. But still, if you're looking for Peaceful + Sea-Bound, you can still accomplish it with Sons of Ragnarok, and that's the most important use for the doctrine.

 

[Seclouds]

Hey thanks for the suggestion. Shame to say that, I rarely meet that expanding slots event...

And after reading your kind & warm replies, I have some new questions.

1. I've tried the Hierocratic on my Zunist & Christianity play. Pagan's hierocratic head is similar to the the Fraticelli papacy. I didn't play Orthodox before (bcs the byz purple make me feel bad), so don't understand what's that similar to... The ck2 wiki said it's like the Antipope (with GHW) and only work in releam? And by my understanding, the court chaplain will be the religion head inside my country. Bcs the reformed pagan don't have duchy level Patriarch can be vassalized.

2. Does the MR needs a huge land? And does the MR needs inland country? The direct holding is very limited... I need to spend 4 or 5 in capital, which holding should I keep for the rest 6 or 7 holding slots?

3. I don't understand the strategies of MR... The NPC MR always with huge number of tradeposts, and try to control the city, then control the country. If they have many coastal country, but with very few vassal limit, how can the MR grand mayor control the count level vassals and the levy of vassals? It's only about 25 vassal slots (mayor empire don't have Imperial administration). And to play as the norse, it can seize the post at the first, then use the coastal country conquest CB... And how many feudal vassal do I need?

After these, I compared the new religion reform system...
All I need is looting(norse bois could always loot), cheap ship, river navel, and the religion tax from suggestion & free vassal levy.
And I creepy dislike prepare invasion... I hope I can disable this feature.
The reform sys offer these feature as the Doctrine, I don't want to have the same limitation as the NPC, we have totally different requirement.
So I think even without religion tax, all the things except religion tax, the old germanic had already gotten... with offer 50% extra retinue.
The Fylkirian Crown is pretty cool, and If I keep the old germanic... Maybe let the new religion keep to pray my name as the High God is a good choice?
And in my saving I find a horse mayor in my releam, I didn't know why that happened to his dear lord ... And he called a none-horse-trait friend as the brony level trible noble.
Maybe I can let him be the reformed religion head? Horse and Norse, only one letter diff.

And few hours ago, the last saving about my game. The revolt stacked down my capital tribe and killed all my hire. WTF RNG is it.