Yup, but since they're usually attacking hordes of LI, it's not a problem.
(Although I did put my retinues back to the strength they were before 2.3, so they're a little bit more powerful than stock)
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Yup, but since they're usually attacking hordes of LI, it's not a problem.
(Although I did put my retinues back to the strength they were before 2.3, so they're a little bit more powerful than stock)
Heh, it was fun playing Norse and raiding Rome every single year. I hope it's not true that raiders are prioritizing on human player provinces rather than high value/short distance provinces.
Doubtful. It seems like they go after the most lucrative target.... which in this game is usually the player. It's the player who builds up their demesne, and it's the player who's got the most juicy / stable target. Combine that with the AI knowing when your levy drops below the threshold for it to be able to successfully siege, and the AI is going to target the player more often than other rulers.
Personally when I'm playing as Norse I like sieging all of a ruler's holdings at once so that he can't/doesn't raise troops to fight you off. So raid both of Cornwall's counties at on, for instance (assuming that they're still independent) and you won't have to worry that they outnumber you by something like 2000 men to 200 men.
The big problem with this is they just don't convert easily which would stop the raiding. Once it's past 1000 any unreformed pagans should be 'easy' to convert, but as it is even with 100 relations with one, they still imprison preachers!
Scenario: Playing Sigurd I get an early/suicidle/BDSM loving preacher at my door, makes my life easier then having to RNG a christian concubine. So I let him do his thing while I zerg the Empire of Scandinavia. Finally create it, time to convert to christendom once the age of vikings trigger, convert my vassals to christians, ready to start unleashing the fury of the north to help the kingdom of asturias by harassing ymayyads and...nothing. My vassals went from being insane berserkers who would gladly sacrifice their lives for a .005 gold against the might of the byzantines to being passive sheeps.
I get that maybe they would stop raiding their christian neighbors but norse pagans raid the Umayyads.
Also I agree that part of the problem is that you literal cant do anything to stop them minus giving them the ol' Uncle Charlie treatment.
Prosletyizing should be a more understandable/controllable process. Like if the pagans dont reform past a fair number they should christianize easily and if you make it your primary focus you should be able to do it earlier with out RNJesus.
But it also brings up the problem with Christian Tribals they just zerg to feudalism and get overrun by their pagan neighbors and especially in less developed parts of the map cant go on the offensive due to the attrition bonus pagans get.
I dont think tribals should be effected by the pagan attrition bonuses and organized religion tribals should have a check point for attempting to turn feudal, like say all demense's are fully upgraded and x gold in reserve.
I get that maybe they would stop raiding their christian neighbors but norse pagans raid the Umayyads.
Also I agree that part of the problem is that you literal cant do anything to stop them minus giving them the ol' Uncle Charlie treatment.
Prosletyizing should be a more understandable/controllable process. Like if the pagans dont reform past a fair number they should christianize easily and if you make it your primary focus you should be able to do it earlier with out RNJesus.
But it also brings up the problem with Christian Tribals they just zerg to feudalism and get overrun by their pagan neighbors and especially in less developed parts of the map cant go on the offensive due to the attrition bonus pagans get.
I dont think tribals should be effected by the pagan attrition bonuses and organized religion tribals should have a check point for attempting to turn feudal, like say all demense's are fully upgraded and x gold in reserve.
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I'm betting the AI isn't programmed to raid as a non-Germanic religion.
At least I've never seen the Celts/Picts do it.
It is, but it's rarer. Adjacent raiding is a lot higher risk than sea raiding.
Yeah I have seen other pagans rarely raid me by land, but again once scandinavia was christianized my vassals all stopped naval raiding.
You misunderstand me. I don't have a problem at all with having to pay the consequences if you strip your homeland of troops and sail off into the sunset, nor do I in the slightest want the raiders to be nerfed because, well, see the first part. NOT being able to just march off your entire army in one direction and expect anybody in the other direction to just sit tight until you come home is one of the things that make CKII stand out and makes it a LOT more realistic to play. Because when my AI neighbor marches off, that's when I strike, so the AI should use the same logic.
That's all great. I just wish that there was a more elegant way of doing it than constantly franti-clicking between Jerusalem and Scotland like an RTS on steroids, going "raise, move, oh wait, other end of map because battle ended, follow enemy on other end, click back, enemy moved, follow, what's that? somebody raised another army on the other end?, wait, enemy at home dead, disband, back to foreign lands... etc. etc. etc." And do this every five minutes.
The best I've come up with, as I mentioned originally, is to just give all of the coastal provinces to vassals because A) I don't care if they get beaten up a bit, keeps them in line and B) as you said, a three county Duke vassal is perfectly capable of policing his Duchy without me micromanaging everything every five seconds on three different areas of the map.
So no, I absolutely DON'T want the raiders to be nerfed away, that would make the game incredibly boring and ahistorical.